Now Roger's messages don't even have spaces between words. I give up, Roger. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kulp" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Magnetofonband, was Columbia tape adoption > Doesanyoneelsehavethe demonstration setColumbiasentto Philcodealersfor thefirstLPplayersin 1949?I > haveonly foundonecopy,and that wasalmost25yearsagoataSalvation Armystore.Iampostingthisin > acolumnof singlewordstoseehow > itcomesout.Roger > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 22:45:53 -0400> From: [log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: > [ARSCLIST] Magnetofonband, was Columbia tape adoption> To: [log in to unmask]> > Thanks > guys for the info. I suspected Wallerstein was off by a couple years.> The earliest Columbia I > have, made around that time, is Szell's arraignment> of From My Life, April '49. Clearly from > disk. Good sounding disk!> > Mullin said he mailed two machines home, along with 50-some tapes. > This from> the same sources is his telling:> http://www.musicinthemail.com/audiotape.html Pretty > amazing story. The> pressure of doing Bing's show must have been tremendous. While many know all> > about these tales, there is a new generation that is discovering the old> mediums. Learning how > much we take for granted today.> > -----Original Message-----> From: Association for Recorded > Sound Discussion List> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steven Smolian> Sent: > Thursday, July 31, 2014 2:19 PM> To: [log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] > Magnetofonband, was Columbia tape adoption> > The time has come to do a survey of the machines > brought out from Germany> and what tendrills extended from them.> > We know Jack Mullen had one.> > > Another showed up the hands of Ralph Ranger, according to a son of John> Jacob Niles, who was > present at a recording session at his house as a little> boy. He told me he recalls Ranger's > machine had a swastika on it. Did that> of Mullen have one also?> > Others must have been brought > out by the Russians and by others on or near> the continent. Perhaps Canada also. Not to mention > any surviving in> Germany and the conquered countries. > > Was there a cache of tape found? > Were old recordings erased and reused? > > Each macine that survived the war has a story to tell. > The pre-history of> postwar recording is encapsulated in their histories. > > I hope someone (not > me, alas) can consider this as a project. > > Steve Smolian> > > > > > > -----Original > Message-----> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Richard L. Hess> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 > 1:11 PM> To: [log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Columbia tape adoption> > Hi, > Carl,> > I believe the first Model 200A machines from Ampex were delivered in 1948,> so I'm > agreeing with Ted.> > Mullin still used his two modified Magnetophon machines (his electronics,> > AEG's transport and tape) for the shows in the fall of 1947. The 1947-10-01> season opener was the > first show on a U.S. national network which was> recorded to and edited on tape, although it was > aired from ETs because the> network did not trust the splices to hold for air.> > At some point in > this, Crosby gave Ampex $50,000 to build the production> machines, and I think he got the first > ten.> > Cheers,> > Richard> > > > On 2014-07-31 10:18 AM, Ted Kendall wrote:> > Mid-48 sounds much > more plausible - the first use of tape at Abbey > > Road was in '48, at Decca mid-'49, for the > launch of London LPs.> > According to Pawley (BBC), there were three prototype EMI BTR-1s by > > > February '48. The> > 47-48 season of Crosby shows was done on the Magnetophons with the IG > > > Farben stock used over and over again, so the story goes. > >