Hi Kate & Callie, Thanks to both of you for providing information. Before I posted my initial email, I had looked at Appendix G and also Appendix A. Kate mentioned that the title is capitalized if it's British but in Appendix G both France and United Kingdom have it as lower case. I had also looked under French In Appendix A but there was no mention of terms of nobility, only Titles of Persons which doesn't seem to specifically apply. Although examples at Rule 184.108.40.206 clearly show Baron as capitalized I didn't think any of the examples were for persons of French lineage. I found a number of RDA NARs in the naf that did not capitalize baron so I began to second guess what the proper course should be. I think I will just follow Rule A.11.5.1 and go ahead and capitalized baron in the NAR that precipitated my questions. Thanks. Rosemary Groenwald Head of Technical Services, Mount Prospect Public Library Mount Prospect, IL 60056 [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> 847-590-3650 "Opinions expressed are those of the sender and not the Mount Prospect Public Library." ________________________________ From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of James, Kate [[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 2:02 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] capitalization of royalty term baron See RDA Appendix G (Titles of Nobility, Terms of Rank, Etc.) and also Appendix A for the language involved. In this case the title is French so it is not capitalized. When the title is British, it is capitalized. That’s why the capitalization varies in the name authority file. Kate James Policy and Standards Division Library of Congress From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Groenwald, Rosemary Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 2:42 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [PCCLIST] capitalization of royalty term baron I recently had cause to use the following authority record. I plan on updating the record and removing the 667 note but I am not sure about the capitalization rules regarding the royalty term "baron". I noticed when searching the naf that sometimes the term is capitalized and sometimes it's not. I couldn't find an RDA rule or explanation regarding when it should be capitalized and when it shouldn't be. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. 010 n 50023126 040 DLC ǂb eng ǂc DLC ǂd DLC ǂd Uk ǂd DLC 046 ǂf 1768 ǂg 1830 1001 Fourier, Jean Baptiste Joseph, ǂc baron, ǂd 1768-1830 4001 Fourier, Joseph, ǂc baron, ǂd 1768-1830 667 THIS 1XX FIELD CANNOT BE USED UNDER RDA UNTIL THIS RECORD HAS BEEN REVIEWED AND/OR UPDATED 670 His Die Auflösung der ... 1902 670 His Joseph Fourier face aux objections contre sa théorie de la chaleur, 1980: ǂb t.p. (Joseph Fourier) 670 Lavoisier, A.L. Elements of chemistry, 1985: ǂb t.p. (Jean-Baptiste-Joseph Fourier) Rosemary Groenwald Head of Technical Services, Mount Prospect Public Library Mount Prospect, IL 60056 [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> 847-590-3650 "Opinions expressed are those of the sender and not the Mount Prospect Public Library."