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At least the LvB 9th as conducted by Furtwaengler in his 1951 Bayreuth (as released by EMI) performance.
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> On Sep 10, 2014, at 12:05, Clark Johnsen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Nevertheless, the B9 just fits onto a 4 3/4 disc at 44/16‚Äč, does it not?
> 
>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Lou Judson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> Avvorsding to the Philips AES paper, the Beethoven part was made-up
>> untruth.
>>