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Can't both 373 and 381 serve to express a qualifying term as a separate
element? RDA wants qualifying terms to be expressed as separate elements,
not for them to be expressed specifically in a 381.  I agree with
Bob--using 373 provides both the separate element and richer semantic
categorization, so I'd prefer it in this case.  I'd reserve 381 for terms
which don't have a more precise encoding.

Stephen

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Adam L. Schiff <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> And I would choose 381 with $2, because that is the actual RDA element
> that is being used as a qualifier.
>
> Adam Schiff
> University of Washington Libraries
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> On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Robert Maxwell wrote:
>
>  Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:21:41 +0000
>> From: Robert Maxwell <[log in to unmask]>
>> Reply-To: Program for Cooperative Cataloging <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Other Distinguishing Characteristics and the 373 field
>>
>>
>> I favor coding corporate bodies in 373 (“associated group”) because
>> that’s where the machine (and humans) will expect to find corporate bodies
>> recorded—373 is the standardized place to find a related corporate body;
>> 381 is a grab bag where you can expect to find just about anything, which
>> is not helpful if there actually is a standardized field for a particular
>> entity (like corporate body).
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> Robert L. Maxwell
>> Ancient Languages and Special Collections Cataloger
>> 6728 Harold B. Lee Library
>> Brigham Young University
>> Provo, UT 84602
>> (801)422-5568
>>
>> "We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine
>> ourselves to the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow,
>> 1842.
>>
>> From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Mark K. Ehlert
>> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:15 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Other Distinguishing Characteristics and the 373 field
>>
>> Skimming the NACO PowerPoint files here:
>> <http://www.loc.gov/catworkshop/courses/naco-RDA/index.html>
>> I came across the following instruction: if the material for the "Other
>> Distinguishing Characteristic of the Work" (RDA 6.6) and "...Expression"
>> (RDA 6.12) is a corporate body, record that body in the 373 field, not the
>> 381.  (See "Describing Works and Expressions," slides #68, 70, and 90.)  I
>> don't recall encountering this directive before.  To illustrate using an
>> example from the MARC site:
>>
>> 130 #0 $a Research paper (South African Law Commission)
>> 381 ## $a South African Law Commission $2 naf
>>  - vs. -
>> 130 #0 $a Research paper (South African Law Commission)
>> 373 ## $a South African Law Commission $2 naf
>>
>> What's the reasoning behind this?  The semantics of both RDA elements
>> line up with the 381 (<http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ad381.html>);
>> the field also employs a $2 like the 373 (<http://www.loc.gov/marc/
>> authority/ad373.html>).  Is the source vocabulary for the $2 the issue?
>> The 381 $2 points to the subject code list (which includes the NAF) and the
>> 373 $2 to the name and title code list (which also includes the NAF).  The
>> DCM Z1 and LC MARC Supplement are silent on the matter as far as I can
>> tell; the same for the "MARC 21 Encoding to Accommodate..." cheat sheet (<
>> http://www.loc.gov/aba/pcc/naco/index.html>) updated earlier this year.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
>>
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>> of Verona," Act I, scene iii
>>
>>
>>
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