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I mainly agree with John Hostage--it's debatable, and there should be some guidance. Just to make the counter argument: Use of a controlled form of name for a birthplace indicates an intention to provide uniform access. Birthplace is not a subject heading, but practice now is to regard many attributes as access points with vocabularies that support uniform retrieval. If the birthplace is simply an attribute derived from sources, one could (and one can) record any found form with the appropriate field/subfield designation. But if the intent is to support uniform retrieval, using a single heading for a city where persons were born does that better. The instruction about not using Danzig (Germany) for subject headings is implicitly about using Danzig (Germany) only for name entries. The birthplace attribute is not a name entry, either. Hence the need for guidance. Given that in this case the city not only changed its name but its nationality, another option would be: 370 $a Gdansk (Poland) $2 naf 370 $a Germany $2 naf Stephen On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:10 PM, Adam L. Schiff <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Use the authority record for the place as appropriate for the date of his > birth. These are attributes, not subjects. > > --Adam > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Adam L. Schiff > Principal Cataloger > University of Washington Libraries > Box 352900 > Seattle, WA 98195-2900 > (206) 543-8409 > (206) 685-8782 fax > [log in to unmask] > http://faculty.washington.edu/~aschiff > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Tue, 28 Oct 2014, Bushman, Barbara (NIH/NLM) [E] wrote: > > Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:15:14 +0000 >> From: "Bushman, Barbara (NIH/NLM) [E]" <[log in to unmask]> >> Reply-To: Program for Cooperative Cataloging <[log in to unmask]> >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Use of terms in 370 which have SUBJECT USAGE: This heading is >> not >> valid for use as a subject. Works about this place are entered under >> ... >> >> We are upgrading the record for Rose, Gerhard, ‡d 1896-1992 (LCCN >> no2002101636) to RDA. We want to include a 370 for his place of birth >> which was Danzig (Germany). The record for Danzig (Germany) has a 667 >> which states SUBJECT USAGE: This heading is not valid for use as a subject. >> Works about this place are entered under Gdańsk (Poland). What do we use >> in the 370, Danzig (Germany) or Gdansk (Poland)? Is place of birth treated >> like a subject? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Barbara >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Barbara Bushman >> Assistant Head >> Cataloging and Metadata Management Section >> National Library of Medicine >> 8600 Rockville Pike >> Building 38, Room 1N13 >> Bethesda, MD 20894 >> 301-496-7135 >> 301-402-1211 (fax) >> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- Stephen Hearn, Metadata Strategist Data Management & Access, University Libraries University of Minnesota 160 Wilson Library 309 19th Avenue South Minneapolis, MN 55455 Ph: 612-625-2328 Fx: 612-625-3428 ORCID: 0000-0002-3590-1242