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Thank you, both for your feedback.  I realize now that I was speaking out
of personal frustration but I appreciate that you have both taken the time
to share your insight with me.
Sincerely,
Amy Nadell


On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:29 AM, John Hostage <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

>  There are some basic guidelines that have been followed in the NAF from
> the beginning.  A name is generally established based on the work being
> cataloged, and if the name is unique, no further research is required to
> establish birth dates or other information.
>
>
>
> Martin Jacques was established over 30 years ago when his first work was
> cataloged at the Library of Congress.  This is his authority record:
> http://lccn.loc.gov/n82032754
>
> In those days, only fairly minimal information was recorded.  However, as
> far as I know, it has always been the policy to include a birth date if it
> is available at the time the heading is established.  So we can assume it
> was not available to the cataloger at the time.  If a birth date becomes
> available later, it can be added as information to the NAR, but it is not
> added to the authorized access point unless necessary to break a conflict.
> It is perfectly acceptable to have an access point that consists of just a
> surname and a forename, even if it doesn’t feel satisfying. J
>
>
>
> It is fairly certain that the person on that NAR is the one born in 1945
> because examining the bibliographic record for the work originally
> cataloged shows it to be published by the Communist Party of Great Britain,
> with which Jacques was active (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Jacques)
>
>
>
>
> VIAF consists of records from many national libraries and some had access
> to his birth date and included it in their authority records.  When we
> reach the promised land of linked data we may be able to create displays
> that take data from different sources and present customizable name forms
> to our users, but for now, PCC libraries have to use the access points in
> the NAF.
>
>
>
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> John Hostage
>
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> *From:* Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:
> [log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Amy Laurel Nadell
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2014 17:59
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* [PCCLIST] Novice question regrading Name Authority
>
>
>
> I come across this issue, rather frequently, and it may be just because I
> am not fully schooled on RDA but let me explain my dilemma...
>
> I need an authorized heading for Martin Jacques.  A short web search
> finds Martin Jacques birth year which I hope to correspond to one of the
> names in the list.  However there is no Martin Jacques with the birth
> year 1945.  Second step is to click on each of the Martin Jacques, around
> the right birth year or with a middle name, hoping to stumble upon
> something that I can relate to.  Eventually, I stumble
> upon Jacques, Martin with no birth year and no middle initial.  Many of the
> names I have had to look up in the NAF do not have a birth year, or middle
> initial.  I just don't feel satisfied by a heading like that, last name,
> first name only.  So my question is, I am supposed to be adding something
> locally?  These people are the subject of the work, rather than the creator
> of the work.
>
> I hope someone can help me to understand why in NAF it is
> only Jacques, Martin and in VAIF it is Jacques, Martin, 1945 (and the one I
> think is more helpful for users).
>
> Thank you,
>
> Amy Nadell
>
>
>
> --
> Amy Laurel Nadell
> Metadata Librarian
> Access Educational Media
> P. 1-800-480-3928
> C. 602-323-4604
> accesseducationalmedia.com
>



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Amy Laurel Nadell
Metadata Librarian
Access Educational Media
P. 1-800-480-3928
C. 602-323-4604
accesseducationalmedia.com