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Is this primarily for private use or institutional purpose? Steve Smolian -----Original Message----- From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Maurice Mengel Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 10:59 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Sound recordings cataloging software Peter, why reinvent the wheel? There are actually quite a few tools that import MARC and some of them may accommodate the level of complexity that you are looking for. There should be open source cataloging tools for libraries, but I don't know any in particular. Definitely worth a look. You could also check, for example, open source repository softwares, such as those managed by DuraSpace (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuraSpace). They are made not ONLY for cataloging, but they also catalog and they should import MARC as well as other stuff. maurice On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Carla Arton <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Since you are interested in MARC, be aware that any investment you > make now in a database that is MARC based may need additional > investment if/when BibFrame is implemented as a replacement for MARC. > > http://www.loc.gov/bibframe/ > > See the AV Modeling Study > <http://www.loc.gov/bibframe/pdf/bibframe-avmodelingstudy-may15-2014.p > df> released this past year. It explores the relationships you mention > between varying performers and performances on one album. You can also > play with filling in fields they have proposed in their testbed editor > <http://bibframe.org/tools/editor/>. > > There are other options as well, such as PBCore <http://pbcore.org/>. > They just held a How-to <http://vimeo.com/109940772> webinar about a > month ago which is available online. > > You may also consider contacting the ARSC Cataloging Committee > <http://www.arsc-audio.org/committees/cataloging-committee.html>. > > Best, Carla Arton > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Tom Fine > <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > See if you can make contact with the guy who writes Tag&Rename. He's > > figured out how to hook into several sources including Amazon and > AllMusic > > to find tag information for music files. He might be able to port > > over > what > > he's done to fill in a catalog or database instead of writing tags > > into FLAC, WAV and MP3 files. If he can grab info out of Amazon and > > AllMusic, > I > > don't think it would be a huge challenge for him to grab info out of > MARC. > > > > If you want the database to fill faster, see if he can hook into a > barcode > > lookup system and use a barcode scanner on your CDs. > > > > -- Tom Fine > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loftus Becker" <[log in to unmask]> > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 7:27 PM > > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Sound recordings cataloging software > > > > > > > > Peter, > >> > >> You might want to ask some database developers how much it would > >> cost to develop a custom database that would do the job you want. > >> It shouldn't > be > >> terribly hard - I just looked up MARC record (I've never used them) > >> and though they're a little complicated they do seem to be pretty > >> well described. Probably the cost would be more than you want to > >> pay . but > you > >> might find enough other people interested that a group of you could > >> get together. As I understand your needs you definitely want a "relational" > >> database but those are available for Windows, Mac, and (I'm sure) > >> for > Linux. > >> > >> I do a lot of custom database programming for myself - quick and > >> dirty things to get the job done (I teach law). My rough guess is > >> that it > would > >> take me a day or so to get a functional, not pretty, version > >> working, > and > >> I'm not nearly as good as a professional would be. Moving from > "functional" > >> to "pretty" and "elegant" involves a lot of work. > >> > >> I don't know of anything available off the shelf. I'll be following > >> this thread to see if there is something. > >> > >> -Lofty > >> > >> > >> On Nov 20, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Peter Hirsch <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >>> > >>> I think the area of software for cataloging a personal library of > >>> recordings has had some discussion on the list but I don't recall > >>> that > it > >>> has come up recently and my recollection is that most of the > >>> programs > put > >>> forward did not readily allow for linking up specific performers > >>> with > the > >>> particular work they performed if there were multiple pieces with > varying > >>> artist groupings on a recording. > >>> > >>> I am interested in software that can download full MARC records > >>> and not the sort of program that uses crowdsourced info like > >>> GraceNote and cddb to populate its records. I realize that even a > >>> MARC record has its limitations as far as what I want to > >>> accomplish is concerned but it is far better than the other system > >>> which tends to produce sketchy records at best and are more > >>> involved with assigning genres than creating meaningful access > >>> points. > >>> > >>> Is there such a product as the one I am seeking available at a > reasonable > >>> price (up to a few hundred $) out there? > >>> > >>> I have no exact count on the number of recordings that would need > >>> to be cataloged, but I figure roughly 10-15K, so I don't think > >>> creating a database from scratch without downloading records is a > >>> practical reality. I have some professional experience as a > >>> cataloger, though very little at all in the area of sound > >>> recordings, so I don't mind a system that gets a > bit > >>> technical (within reasonable bounds). > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> Peter Hirsch > >>> > >> > >> > >> >