Tom Fine: > I don't think very many LPs contained > "super-sonic" frequencies, because > everyone rolled off at some point to > avoid blowing out the cutterhead. There are very many LP´s that do contain a very wide frequency response and very high cutting levels at high frequencies. BTW, you do not "Roll Off" the high frequencies by using a low pass filter instead you use a high frequency limiter that is user adjustable and you can bypass it too. The high frequency limiter limits the level to a "safe value" to provide disks that can be tracked by normal run of the mill cheap cartridges. If you low pass filter the program it will sound very dull ALWAYS. If you HF limit then the decrease in high frequency level will be just very momentary almost inaudible to most persons and the full frequency range is always flat to 20 kHz. So HF limiting is far preferable to low pass filtering. Disks can be cut containing the full frequency and levels found on the master tape with very little problems but most cartridges will turn it all into distortion.e due to too high level for any cartridge to track securely. > You are very correct, though, that it's > easier to cut 10kHz than 20kHz at a > high level, but what music has high > levels of 20kHz in the first place? A lot of music, do in fact, have very high levels beyond 10 kHz on a peak transient basis. Muted brass is a killer for sure to record cleanly and if that was done cutting can be very good but almost impossible to play back cleanly unless the cartridge is the Shure V15 V. Most pop, rock, synth, reggae etc even classical will on many tracks have almost the same level up to 16 kHz, even 20 kHz when you set a third octave analyzer on peak hold for the duration of a disk. That is straight from the master. How much of that found its way onto the release disk or whatever medium seen fit for release is up to the mastering person and his beliefs. No matter what you do there´s a 50 % chance you will get an angry call from somebody telling you that you did wrong. :-) BTW, the Pierino Gamba/LSO Rossini Overtures DECCA CD 417 692-2 as recorded by Kenneth Wilkinson in 1961 has full level up to 14 kHz, meaning more or equal level there, 8 to 14 kHz, than what can be found in any other frequency band. This shows enormous care from DECCA´s chief engineer Kenneth Wilkinson when setting his recording levels going onto tape to avoid analogue tape self erasure. And my DECCA LP that I bought in 1963 has almost everything there despite the very wide frequency range and the very hot outbursts from the percussion department to spice the top. Proving that the cutting department at DECCA was very good indeed at that time. It can be done but only the very best cartridges can track such a disk without it going into distorted mess. > I just don't see any big advantage to > half-speed cutting, The advantage comes from the very well known fact that most cutting heads have a series of high frequency resonances from 5 kHz and up. One of the worst ones are the Westrex which really makes the top goes Hollywood sizzly. You either love it or hates it. Neumann cutter heads ZS90/45, SX45, SX15 all had quite audible resonances in the audible range and those prohibited the use of much feedback to lower distortion since the phase rotation caused by the cutter head resonances made that impossible. The DECCA/London back room boys always tried to get as much quality out of the gear they used so disliking the sizzle in the top caused by the cutter resonances in their Neumann cutter they hit on half speed cutting to make disks that had NO audible resonances in the audible range. If the cutter has a peak at 12 kHz in real time then by using half speed cutting this resonance will now be at 24 kHz when the disk is played back in real time. But half speed cutting has more to gain by having the highest frequency at 8 to 10 kHz means that the cutter could cut much higher transient high frequency information without blowing up. Your 60W cutter amplifier became a monster 240W by half speed cutting. Also the channel separation is much improved in the high frequency range too. All that stopped at DECCA/London around 1968 when Neumann released the SX68 cutter head which was the very first such device that did not have any resonances below 20 kHz. -- Best regards, Goran Finnberg The Mastering Room AB Goteborg Sweden E-mail: [log in to unmask] Learn from the mistakes of others, you can never live long enough to make them all yourself. - John Luther (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(") Smurfen:RIP