You still have not described what the two of you -- and apparently only the two of you -- mean. I have given a series of four different album constructions Columbia used which all might fit your term, but apparently you have made your own definition but are keeping it a secret code. Which description is it? Mike Biel [log in to unmask] -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] early Columbia LP packaging ??? From: Steven Smolian <[log in to unmask]> Date: Sun, April 26, 2015 1:42 pm To: [log in to unmask] Les Gerber and I have been calling these long boxes since before CDs- in lists and conversation. Steve Smolian -----Original Message----- From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Michael Biel Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 11:36 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] early Columbia LP packaging ??? What do you mean by "long box" since that is a CD term. Do you mean a "dowel box"? Those are the boxes with pockets for the discs held with a wood dowel which makes the box rectangular the size of a 78 book album. Or instead of the dowel a regular book binding with box edges on the front cover instead of an open edge. these are different from a slip case box which are square if the the records are individual. They could also be rectangular if the records are bound together in something that slides out as a unit. Columbia used all of these configurations. Mike Biel [log in to unmask] -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] early Columbia LP packaging ??? From: Steve Smolian <[log in to unmask]> Date: Sun, April 26, 2015 6:29 am To: [log in to unmask] Hi, Thomas, Apparently you didn't see this: My copy of the Schneider is in a long box. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Steve Smolian Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 9:44 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] early Columbia LP packaging ??? As I recall, the Scheider set came as a set with a tape hinge- binding, not audiotape, also in a long box. Dunno if it was sold as singles as well, but wouldn't be surprised. Steve Smolian -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Stern Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 9:13 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [ARSCLIST] early Columbia LP packaging ??? A while ago, I inquired about the Bruno Walter NY Philharmonic Beethoven 9th Symphony reissue from 78's (M900) as SL056/SL156, then later issued with newly recorded 4th movement SL186. I've also been looking at the Kirkpatrick/Schneider Mozart Sonatas set from MM-650, reissued in set SL 152 ML 4169/4170. Packaging questions: The 2 LP's in each of SL152, SL056 and SL156 each appear to be issued in conventional LP jackets as Vol.1 and Vol.2. Were these albums also included in a SLIPCASE or BOX ?????? None that I've seen on the internet appear in that form - only as separate LP's. Were they SOLD as individual items ?? Seems strange that someone would buy an incomplete recording. I can't locate an image of the album cover for the Beethoven 78's, but I thought I'd seen it, being the same as the LP sets. The manual set SL-056 has blue background, the 78 and auto sequence SL 156 is green. The reissue of this set with the alternate Choral 4th mvt. SL 186 has the same green background and artwork as the original, EVEN listing the singers from the original, BUT with text "WITH NEWLY RECORDED FINALE". The inside of the box lists the new singers. Also, the additional work on 056/156 is Brahms Song of Destiny, on 186 Beethoven's 8th symphony. Does anyone have a version of 186 which lists the correct singers on the box cover ???? THANKS!!! Best wishes, Thomas.