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Yes, like I said, it's out of date as to what supports what, but a good
overview of what I think Tom was asking about.

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Steven Smolian <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I assume these specs have changed since 2011.
>
> Wavelab 8.0 doesn't do the whole thing.  Wavelab 8.5, issued last year,
> does.
>
> Steve Smolian
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] another file format question
>
> Tom,
>
> Getting back to your question about different programs having difference
> levels of support for embedded metadata, though out of date, it'd be worth
> your while to go over this study:
> http://www.arsc-audio.org/pdf/ARSC_TC_MD_Study.pdf
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > Ditto on the thanks to Dave Rice. I have learned quite a bit about
> > this topic today. I still won't use FLAC as my primary PCM-write
> > format, but I use it all over my house and studio as a backup and
> stream-access format.
> >
> > It's also worth noting, along the lines of what Paul Stamlber said,
> > that because FLAC files reduce the storage need per second of audio,
> > it's a great format for transmission and also for the new generation
> > of portable players such as by Sony, Pono and A&K.
> >
> > Given that no other major company except Apple seems to have
> > patent-lawyer issues with FLAC's open-source-ness, I will opine that
> > this is a phantom menace created by Apple to justify sticking with
> > their proprietary lossless format. If lossless downloads ever catch on
> > mass-market with Amazon and Google, it's more likely that Apple
> > gadgets and computers will deal with FLAC natively, and less likely
> > that mass-market retailers will go to the trouble of selling
> > proprietary ALAC alongside open-source FLAC. For what it's worth, on a
> > modern (circa 2013) Windows 7 Lenovo workstation, ripping a CD to FLAC
> > using dBPowerAmp takes less than 1/4 the time of ripping the same CD to
> ALAC in the latest iTunes for Windows.
> >
> > -- Tom Fine
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard L. Hess" <
> > [log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 1:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] another file format question
> >
> >
> >
> >  Hi, Tom,
> >>
> >> iZotope has an option to save all metadata (as apparently does FLAC
> >> (the container)). Otherwise, only metadata the program knows about is
> saved.
> >>
> >> Hi, Dave,
> >>
> >> One thing we have is the ability to embed MD5 checksums in WAV files
> >> with the custom-written software BWFMETAEDIT. However, I have found
> >> this software a bit problematic from time to time. It was sponsored
> >> by a US Federal Government initiative.
> >>
> >> Thanks for the further insight. This was the type of discussion I was
> >> hoping to engender when I posted the original message.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Richard
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2015-05-18 1:25 PM, Tom Fine wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Dave Rice, et al:
> >>>
> >>> Another question about the WAV file format. Why is dBPowerAmp's CD
> >>> ripper able to write tag metadata to WAV files, and all of my
> >>> various player software able to read them (Foobar2000, iTunes for
> >>> Windows, Logitech server and player software), but if I open the WAV
> >>> file in Sony Soundforge, do anything to it and then save it, the tag
> >>> information is gone? Also, someone I sent one of these WAV files
> >>> claimed his software
> >>> -- either Protools or Logic -- said the file was "corrupted." So
> >>> what's going on there? Soundforge and Harrison Mixbus software for
> >>> Windows have no trouble opening these WAV files, but seem to discard
> >>> the tag info or at least don't save it when work has been done on the
> file.
> >>>
> >>> -- Tom Fine
> >>>
> >>>  --
> >> Richard L. Hess                   email: [log in to unmask]
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> >>
> >>
> >>
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