On 5/15/15 6:10 AM, Owen Stephens wrote: > But perhaps the first question is (and I think Karen, Tom and others > are pushing us towards) is - why is it clear that both are needed, and > if so, why are they both needed? I guess my contention is basically - > I don’t agree that people want to be able to say: > <http://bibframe.example.com/workX> bf:title “Lord of the Flies” I think we're way into the woods now. Whether or n ot there are people who want to say (and I think some might want to) <http://bibframe.example.com/workX> bf:title “Lord of the Flies” . whatever property you have that takes a literal for the title (bf:title, bf:instanceTitle, bf:keyTitle... etc.) can be used in any triple s, bf:x, o. So although you may define bf:title to have a range of, say, bf:Title, some property has to be the property for the literal string of that title. And that property can be used in any triple s, bf:x, o. So you cannot prevent people (using RDF) from saying <http://bibframe.example.com/workX> bf:x “Lord of the Flies” . kc -- Karen Coyle [log in to unmask] http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600