In some ways I think we have been living with unnecessarily complicated input forms with MARC as it is. I hope linked data means that we can have something more akin to  a web form where the underlying mark-up is not laid bare unless necessary. I upload all my photos to Flickr and add, titles, descriptions, and tags and assign them to groups and albums: I have no idea how this is actually recorded and nor do I need or want to. I imagine it not being quite as extreme as that as librarians will also need to manage the data and think about how it is actually shared or displayed, and so on, but there is certainly no need I think for cataloguers to be hand-crafting triples in xml or turtle.


Have you seen the Bibframe editor? http://bibframe.org/tools/editor/ This gives one example at least of what an editor might look like. There is also a Zepheira version here: http://editor.bibframe.zepheira.com/static/


I think it’s also worth suggesting that an increasing amount of our records (a majority by volume if not by time spent) are not individually edited, being downloads from various suppliers which are edited and managed in bulk. In many ways, what the future version of a Marcedit (Linkeddataedit/Bibframedit?) equivalent looks like, or how usable linked data APIs are, is as important as an editor for individual records.



Tom (cataloguer)




Thomas Meehan

Head of Current Cataloguing

Senate House Hub

Library Services

University College London

Gower Street

London WC1E 6BT


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Subject: [BIBFRAME] BIBFRAME from the catalogers view


I have been on the BIBFRAME list to try to get my head around the whole concept.  I have viewed some of the websites mentioned, including some at bibframe.org.


Everything I see looks like html type coding.  MARC may be confusing sometimes, but how is the average paraprofessional cataloger going to see these records in his/her system?  How do they edit them?  How will the librarian actually key this information into a computer to produce the records the patron will see?


It looks very complicated to me, and with so many institutions cutting back on cataloging staff, I am just not seeing how this will be put into production. What am I missing?  Are the records cataloged using MARC, and converted on the machine level?


I may manage to retire before BIBFRAME goes into production.  I still would like to get a feeling for how this will work from our end of the spectrum.  What I am seeing looks really good for the patron/user, but we need to get the information input before they can find it.


Thanks for assisting me in understanding this new resource.




Kathleen Goldfarb

Technical Services Librarian

College of the Mainland Library

Texas City, TX 77591

409 933 8202

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