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No, no. What I was saying would “come in handy” was the UNDERSTANDING or definition of the 375 as being used for “perceived sex,” not a guess at the person’s “real” sex or gender. That makes a decision of how to code a 375 for Dame Edna pretty obvious, I think. Thus, the definition is handy. Pete From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kevin M Randall Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 5:03 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] More Caitlyn Jenner and 375s So you mean using the field will come in handy for determining whether the use of the field is correct? Sounds sort of circular to me. Kevin From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Wilson, Pete Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 4:46 PM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] More Caitlyn Jenner and 375s For making clearer that the 375 should be “female” rather than “male,” no matter what sex/gender Barry Humphries may consider himself to have. Pete From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kevin M Randall Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 4:41 PM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] More Caitlyn Jenner and 375s "Handy" for what purpose? I'm totally lost here. Kevin From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Wilson, Pete Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 4:02 PM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] More Caitlyn Jenner and 375s Ted, Actually I forgot that we don’t actually have an authority record for Dame Edna. I don’t care whether we do or not, really. But if we decide she merits an authority of her own for having been the ostensible author of books, the “perceived gender” concept might come in handy. Pete