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How hot are we talking about, hot tap water, tap water too hot to touch, or water heated on a stove?  Wouldn't that damage the disc?

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> On Sep 29, 2015, at 4:44 PM, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> Dave Burnham, I think John makes a good suggestion -- try very hot water first, see how you do. And please report back if you try it! I'd like to know if water alone will remove the goo.
> 
> -- Tom Fine
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Schroth" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 4:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Chandos CD ALERT
> 
> 
>> Interestingly enough - I have a rather large camera collection in my lobby and the leatherette finish on some of the 1970's Kodak Camera products (such as the Super 8mm motion picture cameras) are also turning to goo.
>> 
>> What about using very hot water to soften and remove the foam from between the CD's? In that way one does not stand the risk of clouding the CD surface with a chemical.
>> 
>> John Schroth
>> MTS
>> 
>>> On 9/29/2015 2:03 PM, Tom Fine wrote:
>>> Hi Alan:
>>> 
>>> Yes, agree. However, let me report that I just salvaged several Kodak slide carousel trays from the 1980s, and the foam was in good shape. I still threw it out, knowing it would eventually go bad.
>>> 
>>> I do think the US and European versions of this foam were different "recipes," and that the US version tends to last longer and deteriorate more as a somewhat sticky powder rather than a ruinous gooey ooze. It probably also depends on climate (temp and humidity).
>>> 
>>> -- Tom Fine
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Lewis" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:55 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Chandos CD ALERT
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> The same foam warning should be applied to many AV products and  containers:
>>>>   -  3M 2" videotape cases from the  1960s used a foam gasket that
>>>> deteriorates.
>>>>   -  Some Kodak 35mm Carousel slide drum  cardboard boxes had a sheet of
>>>> foam in them.
>>>>   -  Some electronic component  packaging and carrying cases were/are
>>>> foam lined.
>>>>   -  Some 3M 1" and 2" videotape reels had a  foam lined upper flange.
>>>> in this case, the problem was not with the  foam but rather with the adhesive
>>>> that leaked through the foam onto the tape  pack.
>>>> 
>>>> Alan Lewis
>>>> Washington, DC
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> In a message dated 9/29/2015 12:41:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>> [log in to unmask] writes:
>>>> 
>>>> Last  night I pulled out a Chandos CD set that I had bought in the mid-'80s
>>>> and was  horrified to see that the foam sheet that was placed between
>>>> facing CDs was  rotting and adhering to the CDs. This residue seems to be
>>>> unremovable,  rendering the CDs unplayable. When I got home I checked other Chandos
>>>> box sets  and found the same problem developing. Strangely I looked at
>>>> other brands  similarly packaged and there didn't seem to be a problem. However
>>>> I am now  removing these sheets from ALL such sets.
>>>> 
>>>> db=
>>> 
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