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Bob, I hadn't noticed the changed definition, but I absolutely agree: The new definition is much less clear than the original one. Not only is it much more abstract (intentionally so, I assume), but there is no longer a reference to the work. Probably, this is supposed to be covered by the relationship LRM-R2. But still, it makes it seem as if an expression could exist on its own, without a work in the background. Heidrun On 24.03.2016 Robert Maxwell wrote: > > I am a bit startled by the new definition of “expression” in FRBR-LRM: > “A distinct constellation of signs conveying intellectual or artistic > content.” (LRM-E3, p. 15). What does this mean? I have a hard time > imagining this phrase meaning anything to someone who asked the > question “what is an expression?” or even to people who already know > what an expression is. The original FRBR definition “the intellectual > or artistic realization of a /work/ in the form of alpha-numeric, > musical, or choreographic notation, sound, image, object, movement, > etc., or any combination of such forms” is not flawless and does > require a bit of thinking, but at least it does make sense (the word > “realization” is key, when a work “becomes real” it has an > expression). I’m not sure “constellation of signs” conveys the idea. I > suggest that the new definition isn’t really an improvement. In fact > it makes the concept, which is important to the model but already > somewhat tricky but not impossible for people to understand, much more > obscure. > > Bob > > Robert L. Maxwell > Ancient Languages and Special Collections Librarian > 6728 Harold B. Lee Library > Brigham Young University > Provo, UT 84602 > (801)422-5568 > > "We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine > ourselves to the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. > Snow, 1842. > > > > You have received this message because you are a subscriber to the RDA-L discussion list. > You can change the email associated with your subscription, the method that you receive RDA-L posts, and other settings by logging into your subscription at http://lists.ala.org/info/rda-l. > To unsubscribe from this list, send an email to [log in to unmask] with UNSUBSCRIBE RDA-L in the subject line. Leave the body of the email blank. Once the email is received you will be automatically unsubscribed. Please note you will be unsubscribed for the address from where the email originated. > > > -- --------------------- Prof. Heidrun Wiesenmueller M.A. Stuttgart Media University Nobelstrasse 10, 70569 Stuttgart, Germany www.hdm-stuttgart.de/bi