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Thanks, Pat, from me as well for explaining about the review process. In addition to Karen's tip about the wordpress comments site (where I've already posted a couple of comments myself) I'd like to take the opportunity and encourage all constituencies to publish their responses about FRBR-LRM on their websites and communicate this via the relevant mailing lists. Heidrun Karen Coyle wrote: > Pat, thanks for the more detailed information. I do wish there were a > way to get clarifications from the committee, however. For example, > I'm curious about the thinking behind the attributes for work and > expression; why work has only "category" and expression includes > specific attributes for music and maps. And why these expression > attributes are present even though section 2.1 says: "... data > elements that are viewed as specialized or specific to certain types > of resources, are deliberately not represented in the model." I think > you can see how one might have questions about this. It's hard to > comment if one cannot ask for clarifications, and I've never met a > 75-page standards document that couldn't use a few clarifications. > > For those who wish to share and discuss (without having to copy myriad > mailing lists), some of us have set up a blog that can take comments > on the draft: > > https://frbropencomments.wordpress.com/ > > It is a bit awkward, as blogs tend to be, but it at least gives a > public place for your ideas. Feel free to add them as comments, and if > you need a new section added, let me know or leave a comment to that > effect and those of us who are moderating the comments will see it. > The site can also serve as a kind of "executive summary" of the LRM, > as we've copied salient bits from each section to the blog. Any ideas > on how we can improve this are welcome. > > kc > > On 3/29/16 9:25 AM, Pat Riva wrote: >> Dear Heidrun, >> >> The interest in FRBR-LRM evidenced by public discussions is heartening. >> At the moment we are in a world-wide review period which is an official >> IFLA stage in the preparation and adoption of an international standard. >> Each standards-making body has a process which governs the development >> and adoption of its standards. The IFLA standards process is governed by >> the Standards Manual (http://www.ifla.org/node/8719), which requires a >> world-wide review period to take place after the relevant working groups >> have determined that the draft is ready for wider dissemination and >> comment. IFLA adopted the world-wide review process precisely to ensure >> openness and equal opportunity to participate in standards development >> world-wide. >> >> All responses received by May 1, 2016 according to the instructions in >> the call for world-wide review (http://www.ifla.org/node/10280?og=54) >> will be considered seriously by the Consolidation Editorial Group and >> the FRBR Review Group. Any commenters who wish to also send their >> comments on the public listserv of their choice are free to do so at any >> time. The Review Group will take the full summer to discuss the >> comments, assess the different types of comments and directions for >> change, examine how the ideas impact the model, and come to a consensus >> about changes and/or responses to the comments. >> >> Although the IFLA standards process does not mandate public answers to >> all issues raised by responses to a world-wide review, the FRBR Review >> Group did issue responses to the comments received during the world-wide >> review of FRBRoo held in 2015. The FRBRoo comments and the responses can >> be consulted at: >> http://www.ifla.org/files/assets/cataloguing/FRBRoo/comments_on_responses_to_world-wide_review_of_frbroo.pdf >> >> >> >> Regards, Pat >> >> Pat Riva >> >> Associate University Librarian, Collection Services / Directrice >> adjointe, Services des collections >> >> Libraries / Bibliothèques >> >> Concordia University / Université Concordia >> >> 7141 Sherbrooke Street West, VL 301-61, Montréal, Québec H4B 1R6 >> +1-514-848-2424, ext. 5255 >> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> >> >> >> cid:[log in to unmask] >> >> *From:*Heidrun Wiesenmüller [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >> *Sent:* March-29-16 3:59 AM >> *To:* Pat Riva <[log in to unmask]>; [log in to unmask] >> *Cc:* [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]; >> Program for Cooperative Cataloging <[log in to unmask]> >> *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] World-Wide Review of FRBR-Library Reference Model >> >> Pat and Chris, >> >> Now that some highly interesting discussions about FRBR-LRM have started >> on the various lists, I must say that I would be very much interested in >> having a look at the comments which are to be sent to Chris (especially >> the "official" ones of the various constituencies) - and I suppose I'm >> not the only one. >> >> So may I suggest that these comments be made public in some way or >> other, perhaps by putting them on the website of the FRBR Review Group? >> >> As the revised FRBR model is of such crucial significance for the whole >> cataloguing community, I think it would be a good thing if the review >> process could be made as open and transparent as possible. >> >> Thanks, >> Heidrun >> >> >> >> On 02.03.2016 Pat Riva wrote: >> >> You are invited to comment onFRBR-LRM >> <http://www.ifla.org/files/assets/cataloguing/frbr-lrm/frbr-lrm_20160225.pdf>as >> part of a world-wide review. Comments are due by*May 1, 2016*. >> Please see the files at: http://www.ifla.org/node/10280?og=54 >> >> The FRBR-Library Reference Model was developed in response to the >> need to unify the three separately developed conceptual models (FRBR >> <http://www.ifla.org/publications/functional-requirements-for-bibliographic-records>,FRAD >> <http://www.ifla.org/publications/functional-requirements-for-authority-data>,FRSAD >> <http://www.ifla.org/node/5849>) and consolidate them into a single, >> consistent model covering all aspects of bibliographic data. >> FRBR-LRM aims to be a high-level conceptual reference model >> developed within an entity-relationship modelling framework. TheFRBR >> Review Group <http://www.ifla.org/about-the-frbr-review-group>worked >> actively towards a consolidated model starting in 2010. In 2013, the >> FRBR Review Group constituted a Consolidation Editorial Group (CEG) >> which is responsible for the drafting of this model document. >> >> To assist in the evaluation of the FRBR-Library Reference Model, a >> Transition Mapping >> <http://www.ifla.org/files/assets/cataloguing/frbr-lrm/transitionmapping_20160225.pdf>is >> being made available as complementary material. The Transition >> Mapping begins with a brief overview of the principal differences >> between FRBR-LRM and the three preceding models in the FR family. >> The Transition Mapping then charts each user task, entity, >> attribute, and relationship declared in the FRBR, FRAD, and FRSAD >> models and maps to how each is handled in FRBR-LRM. While these >> mappings are not a part of the model itself, and do not constitute a >> formal IFLA standard, they are made available to aid in the >> understanding of the consolidated model and to assist in the >> transition of implementations. Comments on the Transition Mapping >> are also welcome at this time. >> >> Comments will be reviewed by the FRBR Review Group and by the >> Consolidation Editorial Group. >> >> Please send all comments to Chris Oliver >> ([log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>), >> Chair of the FRBR Review Group by *May 1, 2016*. >> >> Pat Riva >> >> Associate University Librarian, Collection Services >> >> Concordia University >> >> Vanier Library (VL-301-61) >> >> 7141 Sherbrooke Street West >> >> Montreal, QC H4B 1R6 >> >> Canada >> >> +1-514-848-2424 ext. 5255 >> >> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> >> >> >> > -- --------------------- Prof. Heidrun Wiesenmueller M.A. Stuttgart Media University Nobelstrasse 10, 70569 Stuttgart, Germany www.hdm-stuttgart.de/bi <http://www.hdm-stuttgart.de/bi>