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Hi 

I just wanted to follow up on the great responses from Bob and Kate. The example that appears in the LC-PCC PS is a MARC-specific example. The LC/PCC policy statements reflect the rules of a MARC environment and in fact are only requirements for LC catalogers and participants in the NACO and BIBCO programs.

RDA itself is meant to be used in conjunction with any data encoding schemes not just MARC. As many of us most likely will be moving away from MARC into Linked Data and other ways of creating bibliographic data it is important that we understand the instructions themselves and not just depend on a current encoding standard.

Sincerely, Heidi Lerner



Heidi G. Lerner
Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica
Metadata Dept.
Stanford University Libraries
Stanford, CA 94305-6004
ph: 650-725-9953
fax: 650-725-1120
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From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Robert M. TALBOTT <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 7:42 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] RDA Bible Selections

Good morning:

 LC-PCC PS 6.24.1.3 gives a concrete example of the sequence, though
no explicit recommendation for that order.

 Bible. $k Selections. $l English. $s Authorized. $f 2010.

Bob

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 7:26 AM, Fiona Grant <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Thank you for the clarification.  That was how I read 6.23.2.9.7 but as
> there was no example including $s and $f, I just wanted to be 100% sure
> before advising others of this and making further changes to pre-existing
> Bible headings in our local catalogue.
>
> --
> Fiona Grant
> Authority Control and Cataloguing Specialist
> Collection Development and Description
> Cambridge University Library
> West Road
> Cambridge
> CB3 9DR
>
>
> On 23/03/2016 14:15, Policy and Standards Division wrote:
>>
>> The concrete proof is that the instruction to add Selections is
>> 6.23.2.9.7, which is part of the preferred title instructions (6.23.2).
>> Preferred title for the work is a work attribute.  Expressions do not have
>> preferred titles in RDA.  So in MARC, you add $k Selections after $a Bible
>> just like you would when using "Selections" for a non-religious work with no
>> creator like in this English expression of selections of Arabian nights: $a
>> Arabian nights. $k Selections. $l English.
>>    If you are interested in the historical background on the treatment of
>> "Selections," see 6JSC/LC rep/2 and 6JSC/LC/20 and available here:
>> http://www.rda-jsc.org/archivedsite/working2.html
>>
>> Kate James
>> Policy and Standards Division
>> Library of Congress
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Fiona Grant
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:47 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [PCCLIST] RDA Bible Selections
>>
>> I would appreciate guidance on the following:
>>
>> Is Selections considered a Work level attribute in RDA and consequently in
>> Bible headings should it come immediately after the $a or $a and $p, by that
>> I mean before any $l, $s or $f?
>>
>> I've looked at RDA and the NACO participants manual and various
>> presentations/documents and whilst my instinct tells me yes I'm unable to
>> find concrete proof.
>>
>> With thanks in advance for any guidance,
>>
>> --
>> Fiona Grant
>> Authority Control and Cataloguing Specialist Collection Development and
>> Description Cambridge University Library West Road Cambridge
>> CB3 9DR



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Bob Talbott

Principal cataloger/Hebraica cataloger

UC Berkeley

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