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I'll buy one! Providing it has a scoop neck and cap sleeves. (-;

 

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From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stephen Early
Sent: Tuesday, 17 May 2016 12:00
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Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] Watson, Tom, 1965- (NAR nb2014002382)

 

Not that we’re voting, but I agree with Ben and vote that the recent change be retained.

 

(Less seriously) I also propose T-Shirts proclaiming “I survived the Great Tom Watson War of 2016”

 

Stephen T. Early

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From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Benjamin A Abrahamse
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 10:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] Watson, Tom, 1965- (NAR nb2014002382)

 

I can understand the general principle of not making changes when you can avoid it.


That said, if you've already made the change and it's already gone through distribution does it really make sense to change it back? I think as you say the new/current heading is better.

 

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Benjamin Abrahamse

Cataloging Coordinator

Acquisitions and Discovery Enhancement

MIT Libraries

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From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Michael Borries
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 11:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] Watson, Tom, 1965- (NAR nb2014002382)

 

Almost a week ago I asked about changing the heading on NAR nb2014002382.  Since that time there have been a number of useful and interesting discussions about the use of qualifiers, but no opinions were given firmly opposing the suggested change.  I suggested the change both because the argument based on maintenance seemed to be mitigated by the fact that there was already a lot of maintenance required in this case, no matter what decision was made, and also because the qualifier chosen was less than accurate/adequate (although this might not normally justify a change).  I also repeated the question at the end of last week.  Still no objections.  Only when I have announced that I made the change do I receive emails objecting to it.

 

However, since these objections have been made, once the record comes out of distribution, I will change the heading from the more accurate date back to the less than accurate qualifier and hope that in future catalogers will take better care in establishing headings and checking authority records before using a heading.  Had anyone done the latter, they would have realized the author of CauseWired, no matter what the title or the organization sounds like, is no more likely to be an author of children’s books than the Labour Party politician.

 

Michael S. Borries

Cataloger, City University of New York

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From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Moore, Richard
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 2:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] Watson, Tom, 1965- (NAR nb2014002382)

 

No, it hasn’t. Whatever the merits, it would be contrary to PCC policy to change the AAP. That was always the case. The BL created this NAR (note nb prefix) and I would prefer if it were not changed.

 

Regards

Richard

 

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From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Hostage
Sent: 17 May 2016 00:43
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Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] Watson, Tom, 1965- (NAR nb2014002382)

 

Has the principle at the end of the answer to question 4 in this FAQ (https://www.loc.gov/aba/pcc/naco/personnamefaq.html#4) been abolished?
"Under RDA no equivalent LC-PCC policy statement exists but the principle of not changing a 1XX every time new information is received remains the same. In a shared database environment we should consider the impact on other catalogs that may have used the name help to minimize the impact."

 

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From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Michael Borries [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 16:55
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Subject: [PCCLIST] Watson, Tom, 1965- (NAR nb2014002382)

After reading the various emails that came through (which seems to be most, except from OCLC-CAT), I decided that I should change the heading on NAR nb2014002382 from Watson, Tom (Children’s story writer) to Watson, Tom, 1965-.  This may violate the strict reading of the policy not to change headings that are not incorrect, but I felt in the end that other factors made the change advisable.

 

1.  Before someone changed all the incorrect English language records (except for two, which I changed), there was already a large amount of clean-up to be done no matter what heading was chosen, and this of course still applies to individual libraries.  LC, for instance, has four records to change, not from the formerly correct heading, but from Watson, Tom, 1962-.  The foreign language records in OCLC have not been changed.

 

2.  The heading “Watson, Tom (Children’s story writer),” while not wrong, is certainly not entirely accurate, either.  Currently he has only published the Stick Dog and Stick Cat books.  But it is not inconceivable that, at some future date, he may be persuaded to write his memoirs as a speech writer for Gov. Richard Celeste of Ohio, or the governor’s biography, or a history of Ohio, or a book about speech writing.  Would the cataloger who first cataloged one of these books (if it ever gets written) know that “Watson, Tom (Children’s story writer)” is the correct heading for the author?  Would the readers?

 

I agree that dates are initially the most opaque way of disambiguating the author, but I think they also tend to be the least misleading.  And I also think that many users who want to come back to an author learn quickly how to do that, either by writing down the dates, or using a keyword search that they know will work reasonably well.

 

Michael S. Borries

Cataloger, City University of New York

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New York, NY  10010

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