I agree with Bob and will probably cease using 375 unless an individual very specifically self-identifies. Wayne Richter Asian Materials Specialist/PCC Liaison The Libraries Western Washington University Bellingham, WA 98225-9103 ALCTS CC:AAM 2009-2015 From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Robert Maxwell Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 5:06 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] Profession/occupation terms and gender/ethnicity/nationality/religion etc. Because “male” and “female” seem to describe the situation they describe quite clearly. I’m not saying that other terms aren’t needed, but those two seem completely clear and so why change them? By the way, I don’t think it’s correct to say that RDA made the terms or the practice of recording “male” and “female” “obsolete”. The RSC simply decided to decline to provide controlled terms for gender in RDA. RDA neither opposes nor endorses “male” and “female.” There’s no reason under the sun that PCC couldn’t declare that we should continue to use “male” and “female” where appropriate and either provide other vocabulary for other situations or direct catalogers to appropriate controlled vocabularies. In my opinion that’s the simplest solution. Bob Robert L. Maxwell Ancient Languages and Special Collections Librarian 6728 Harold B. Lee Library Brigham Young University Provo, UT 84602 (801)422-5568 "We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves to the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842. From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Shorten, Jay Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 3:30 PM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Profession/occupation terms and gender/ethnicity/nationality/religion etc. Because “male” and “female” and “not known” are the choices in the handy OCLC basic name authority creation macro? Jay Shorten Cataloger, Monographs and Electronic Resources Associate Professor of Bibliography Catalog Department University Libraries University of Oklahoma Co-owner, PERSNAME-L, the list about personal names in bibliographic and authority records [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Adam L. Schiff Sent: 25 May 2016 13:03 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] Profession/occupation terms and gender/ethnicity/nationality/religion etc. I don’t know why libraries would continue to follow a now obsolete RDA practice. Adam Schiff University of Washington Libraries