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Another issue is that the available CD transfer may not be as good as the original LP. On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Thomas Stern <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > for some LP releases, in addition to sound, the packaging is superior to > CD reissue - large legible notes, cover art, texts/translations Thomas. > > > second time trying to post this - a lot of you STILL have not corrected > the reply address problem, so rather > than being posted to the ARSCLIST, the response goes to the sender of the > message replied to. > > Thomas. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto: > [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paul Stamler > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 5:13 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Please give me reasons to keep Classical vinyl!!!!! > > I guess the first real question is: who has the collection, and what's it > used for? > > The second is: are there any unique items in the collection, not > obtainable on CD? > > Peace, > Paul > > On 8/26/2016 3:32 PM, Barton, Matthew wrote: > > What are the circumstances here? The argument about CDs versus vinyl may > be beside the point, as the best argument for keeping the vinyl might be a > financial one. For example, if a music school had a large classical vinyl > collection and didn't mind that it took up a lot space and was willing to > maintain a good listening station or two, then it would still be a valuable > resource for students. The cost of buying thousands of CDs to replace the > vinyl would be prohibitive and unnecessary, as the LPs are already > available and are adequate for study purposes, whatever one thinks of > analog vs. digital. > > > > > > Matthew Barton > > Library of Congress > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Clark Johnsen > > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 3:46 PM > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Please give me reasons to keep Classical > vinyl!!!!! > > > > To David Burnham: > > > > A nay and a yay: > > > > * This "ambience" is nothing more than the sound of stylus against > > groove walls - it has nothing to do with the original recording. I > > have no doubt that these enthusiasts would prefer the sound of an LP > > to the sound of the master tape from which it was made.* > > > > Beg to differ with both parts. The first is a mere assertion, the second > is simply untrue. > > > > * Many if not most 78s from the pre-tape era are also direct to disc > > recordings so if you have a good copy and good equipment to play it > > on, a > > 78 will give better reproduction than any subsequent mastering > > efforts.* > > > > Quite right! > > > > Clark > > > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:39 PM, DAVID BURNHAM <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > >> I think the question comes down to do you want reasons to keep > >> CLASSICAL vinyl, as opposed to other genres on vinyl or reasons to > >> keep classical VINYL as opposed to CDs or whatever. As all > >> collectors know, there are those who worship vinyl as a medium and > >> feel that it is so superior to other media, and those who think those > >> collectors should belong to the flat earth society of audio. Vinyl > >> DOES have its advantages, mainly that the highest frequency harmonic > >> content is more accurately reproduced than on CDs; this is because > >> the highest frequency harmonic content is so low in level compared to > >> the main body of the audio signal and therefore there are very few > >> bits available to accurately reproduce it. It is in this area that > SACDs are so superior. Many vinyl enthusiasts love the "ambience" > >> around the music that is missing on CDs. This "ambience" is nothing > >> more than the sound of stylus against groove walls - it has nothing > >> to do with the original recording. I have no doubt that these > >> enthusiasts would prefer the sound of an LP to the sound of the > >> master tape from which it was made. > >> As opposed to many 78s, the main characteristic of LPs that lowers > >> their status as a medium is that, aside from the few direct to disc > >> recordings that have come out, they are all two or more generations > >> removed from the master recording and it is that master that, as long > >> as it's preserved, will keep the recordings alive. Many if not most > >> 78s from the pre-tape era are also direct to disc recordings so if > >> you have a good copy and good equipment to play it on, a 78 will give > >> better reproduction than any subsequent mastering efforts. > >> db > >> > >> On Friday, August 26, 2016 11:22 AM, Benjamin Roth <[log in to unmask]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Greetings everyone. > >> > >> I need some help in convincing someone to keep a collection of > >> classical vinyl. > >> > >> ASAP!!! Please! > >> Ben Roth > >> ' > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- Frank B Strauss, DMD