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Thanks to all for your assistance here!  I really appreciate it.

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Denenberg, Ray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Rob - the convention is to supply separate contributions for two authors and
> if two agents are supplied for the same contribution it is assumed to be two
> representations of the same author.  --Ray
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> From: Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Robert Sanderson
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 3:57 PM
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> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [BIBFRAME] Name authorities in BIBFRAME?
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> The concern here, however, is that it looks like there are two separate
> authors, whereas there's really only one.
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> The way that the Getty Vocabularies deal with this is to turn the name into
> a resource with a value, one or more sources, and other information about
> its use.
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> Rob
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> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Denenberg, Ray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Jane - sorry I didn't completely think through that last response.
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> You could say:
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>       bf:agent              <URI for lcnaf:n81139185>  ;
>       bf:agent                <URI for wd:Q435902> .
> <URI for lcnaf:n81139185>     rdfs:label       "Allen, Paula Gunn"  .
> <URI for wd:Q435902>           rdfs:label       "Paula Gunn Allen, Native
> American writer"  .
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> This would associate each URI with the correct label.
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> Ray
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum
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>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Denenberg, Ray
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 2:52 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [BIBFRAME] Name authorities in BIBFRAME?
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>> Jane - yes, in your example ...
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>>     rdfs:label "Allen, Paula Gunn" ;
>>     rdfs:label "Paula Gunn Allen, Native American writer" ;
>>     bf:agent lcnaf:n81139185 ;
>>     bf:agent wd:Q435902 .
>>
>> ... where there are two labels and two links supplied you cannot readily
>> associated a label with the link that it corresponds to.  If you need to
>> associate
>> them, you would have to follow the links.  (Or just one link; if you
>> associate one
>> label with one of the links you can probably assume that the other label
>> is
>> associated with the other link.)
>>
>> Ray
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>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum
>> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jane Sandberg
>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 2:41 PM
>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>> > Subject: Re: [BIBFRAME] Name authorities in BIBFRAME?
>> >
>> > Thanks for your helpful response, Ray!
>> >
>> > What happens if two authority sources offer different labels for a
>> > person?  For example, in the following example, LCNAF refers to a
>> > person as "Allen, Paula Gunn", while wikidata refers to her as "Paula
>> > Gunn Allen, Native American writer".  However, it's impossible to tell
>> > which name authority provided which label.
>> >
>> > Is there a cool way to do this?  Or have BIBFRAME designers decided
>> > that this it is not important to preserve these data?  Granted, I
>> > can't necessarily think of a specific use case for recording the
>> > providers of specific authorized labels, but it just seems like
>> > something that'd be nice to have (and something that MARC includes in
>> > the
>> second indicator or $2 of many fields, such as the 600 field).
>> >
>> > @prefix bf: <http://bibframe.org/vocab/> @prefix lcnaf:
>> > <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/>
>> > @prefix rel: <http://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/relators/>
>> > @prefix wd: <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/>
>> >
>> > _:article a bf:Work;
>> >     bf:contributor _:author .
>> >
>> > _:author a bf:Contribution;
>> >     bf:role rel:aut ;
>> >     rdfs:label "Allen, Paula Gunn" ;
>> >     rdfs:label "Paula Gunn Allen, Native American writer" ;
>> >     bf:agent lcnaf:n81139185 ;
>> >     bf:agent wd:Q435902 .
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Ray Denenberg
>> > <[log in to unmask]>
>> > wrote:
>> > > Hi Jane -
>> > >
>> > > bf:authorityAssigner from 1.0 is generalized in 2.0. to bf:assigner.
>> > >
>> > > referenceAuthority.  Yes, in 1.0 the idea was to be able to
>> > > designate a principal authority and to distinguish it from one or
>> > > more secondary authorities.  In 2.0 the concept of a principal is
>> > > discarded.
>> > > Instead, you can supply multiple agents within a single contribution.
>> > > (The obvious question is, if you supply two agents for, let’s say
>> > > author, how do you know whether there are two authors or if they are
>> > > just different authorities for the same author.  The answer is, if
>> > > there are two authors, supply separate contributions.)
>> > >
>> > > Ray
>> > >
>> > >> On Jul 11, 2016, at 5:49 PM, Jane Sandberg <[log in to unmask]>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Hi everyone,
>> > >>
>> > >> BF1.0 included two properties that don't exist in 2.0 that I am
>> > >> curious about.  bf:authorityAssigner was a rdf:Property that
>> > >> connected a bf:Authority to the bf:Agent who had done the work of
>> > >> assigning that authority.  bf:referenceAuthority was a rdf:Property
>> > >> that connected a bf:Authority to some other information about the
>> > >> authority -- my understanding was that this refers to some
>> > >> secondary
>> > authority.
>> > >>
>> > >> So as I wrap my mind around BF 2.0, I am trying to put together an
>> > >> example that expresses the following:
>> > >> 1) That an author of an article is represented in both LCNAF and
>> > >> ISNI.
>> > >> 2) That I used an author's homepage as a reference to verify the
>> > >> match.
>> > >> 3) That the authority matching work was done by Linn-Benton
>> > >> Community
>> > College.
>> > >>
>> > >> How would I do this in BF 2.0?  I took a bit of a stab at this below.
>> > >>
>> > >> Appreciatively,
>> > >>
>> > >>  -Jane
>> > >>
>> > >> @prefix bf: <http://bibframe.org/vocab/> @prefix isni:
>> > >> <http://isni.org/isni/> @prefix lcnaf:
>> > >> <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/>
>> > >> @prefix rel: <http://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/relators/>
>> > >>
>> > >> _:article a bf:Work;
>> > >>    bf:contributor _:author .
>> > >>
>> > >> _:author a bf:Contribution;
>> > >>    bf:role rel:aut ;
>> > >>    bf:agent lcnaf:no2013089082 .
>> > >>
>> > >> lcnaf:no2013089082 rdfs:label "Lilley, Spencer, 1963-" ;
>> > >>    owl:sameAs isni:0000000418419694 ;
>> > >>    foaf:homepage
>> > >> <http://www.massey.ac.nz/massey/expertise/profile.cfm?stref=334330> .
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Jane Sandberg
>> > >> Electronic Resources Librarian
>> > >> Linn-Benton Community College
>> > >> [log in to unmask] / 541-917-4655
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>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jane Sandberg
>> > Electronic Resources Librarian
>> > Linn-Benton Community College
>> > [log in to unmask] / 541-917-4655
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> Rob Sanderson
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> Semantic Architect
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> The Getty Trust
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> Los Angeles, CA 90049



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Jane Sandberg
Electronic Resources Librarian
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