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Thanks to all for your assistance here! I really appreciate it. On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Denenberg, Ray <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Rob - the convention is to supply separate contributions for two authors and > if two agents are supplied for the same contribution it is assumed to be two > representations of the same author. --Ray > > > > From: Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Robert Sanderson > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 3:57 PM > > > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [BIBFRAME] Name authorities in BIBFRAME? > > > > > > The concern here, however, is that it looks like there are two separate > authors, whereas there's really only one. > > > > The way that the Getty Vocabularies deal with this is to turn the name into > a resource with a value, one or more sources, and other information about > its use. > > > > Rob > > > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Denenberg, Ray <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Jane - sorry I didn't completely think through that last response. > > You could say: > > bf:agent <URI for lcnaf:n81139185> ; > bf:agent <URI for wd:Q435902> . > <URI for lcnaf:n81139185> rdfs:label "Allen, Paula Gunn" . > <URI for wd:Q435902> rdfs:label "Paula Gunn Allen, Native > American writer" . > > This would associate each URI with the correct label. > > Ray > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum > >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Denenberg, Ray >> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 2:52 PM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: [BIBFRAME] Name authorities in BIBFRAME? >> >> Jane - yes, in your example ... >> >> rdfs:label "Allen, Paula Gunn" ; >> rdfs:label "Paula Gunn Allen, Native American writer" ; >> bf:agent lcnaf:n81139185 ; >> bf:agent wd:Q435902 . >> >> ... where there are two labels and two links supplied you cannot readily >> associated a label with the link that it corresponds to. If you need to >> associate >> them, you would have to follow the links. (Or just one link; if you >> associate one >> label with one of the links you can probably assume that the other label >> is >> associated with the other link.) >> >> Ray >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum >> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jane Sandberg >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 2:41 PM >> > To: [log in to unmask] >> > Subject: Re: [BIBFRAME] Name authorities in BIBFRAME? >> > >> > Thanks for your helpful response, Ray! >> > >> > What happens if two authority sources offer different labels for a >> > person? For example, in the following example, LCNAF refers to a >> > person as "Allen, Paula Gunn", while wikidata refers to her as "Paula >> > Gunn Allen, Native American writer". However, it's impossible to tell >> > which name authority provided which label. >> > >> > Is there a cool way to do this? Or have BIBFRAME designers decided >> > that this it is not important to preserve these data? Granted, I >> > can't necessarily think of a specific use case for recording the >> > providers of specific authorized labels, but it just seems like >> > something that'd be nice to have (and something that MARC includes in >> > the >> second indicator or $2 of many fields, such as the 600 field). >> > >> > @prefix bf: <http://bibframe.org/vocab/> @prefix lcnaf: >> > <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/> >> > @prefix rel: <http://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/relators/> >> > @prefix wd: <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/> >> > >> > _:article a bf:Work; >> > bf:contributor _:author . >> > >> > _:author a bf:Contribution; >> > bf:role rel:aut ; >> > rdfs:label "Allen, Paula Gunn" ; >> > rdfs:label "Paula Gunn Allen, Native American writer" ; >> > bf:agent lcnaf:n81139185 ; >> > bf:agent wd:Q435902 . >> > >> > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Ray Denenberg >> > <[log in to unmask]> >> > wrote: >> > > Hi Jane - >> > > >> > > bf:authorityAssigner from 1.0 is generalized in 2.0. to bf:assigner. >> > > >> > > referenceAuthority. Yes, in 1.0 the idea was to be able to >> > > designate a principal authority and to distinguish it from one or >> > > more secondary authorities. In 2.0 the concept of a principal is >> > > discarded. >> > > Instead, you can supply multiple agents within a single contribution. >> > > (The obvious question is, if you supply two agents for, let’s say >> > > author, how do you know whether there are two authors or if they are >> > > just different authorities for the same author. The answer is, if >> > > there are two authors, supply separate contributions.) >> > > >> > > Ray >> > > >> > >> On Jul 11, 2016, at 5:49 PM, Jane Sandberg <[log in to unmask]> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Hi everyone, >> > >> >> > >> BF1.0 included two properties that don't exist in 2.0 that I am >> > >> curious about. bf:authorityAssigner was a rdf:Property that >> > >> connected a bf:Authority to the bf:Agent who had done the work of >> > >> assigning that authority. bf:referenceAuthority was a rdf:Property >> > >> that connected a bf:Authority to some other information about the >> > >> authority -- my understanding was that this refers to some >> > >> secondary >> > authority. >> > >> >> > >> So as I wrap my mind around BF 2.0, I am trying to put together an >> > >> example that expresses the following: >> > >> 1) That an author of an article is represented in both LCNAF and >> > >> ISNI. >> > >> 2) That I used an author's homepage as a reference to verify the >> > >> match. >> > >> 3) That the authority matching work was done by Linn-Benton >> > >> Community >> > College. >> > >> >> > >> How would I do this in BF 2.0? I took a bit of a stab at this below. >> > >> >> > >> Appreciatively, >> > >> >> > >> -Jane >> > >> >> > >> @prefix bf: <http://bibframe.org/vocab/> @prefix isni: >> > >> <http://isni.org/isni/> @prefix lcnaf: >> > >> <http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/> >> > >> @prefix rel: <http://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/relators/> >> > >> >> > >> _:article a bf:Work; >> > >> bf:contributor _:author . >> > >> >> > >> _:author a bf:Contribution; >> > >> bf:role rel:aut ; >> > >> bf:agent lcnaf:no2013089082 . >> > >> >> > >> lcnaf:no2013089082 rdfs:label "Lilley, Spencer, 1963-" ; >> > >> owl:sameAs isni:0000000418419694 ; >> > >> foaf:homepage >> > >> <http://www.massey.ac.nz/massey/expertise/profile.cfm?stref=334330> . >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> Jane Sandberg >> > >> Electronic Resources Librarian >> > >> Linn-Benton Community College >> > >> [log in to unmask] / 541-917-4655 >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Jane Sandberg >> > Electronic Resources Librarian >> > Linn-Benton Community College >> > [log in to unmask] / 541-917-4655 > > > > > > -- > > Rob Sanderson > > Semantic Architect > > The Getty Trust > > Los Angeles, CA 90049 -- Jane Sandberg Electronic Resources Librarian Linn-Benton Community College [log in to unmask] / 541-917-4655