Yes, and of course some people’s lives span more than one century.
Ted Gemberling
UAB Lister Hill Library
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I’m a little late to this conversation, but I would avoid using century dates for dates of activity if at all possible. BNF has done this (historically,
at any rate), and it makes it nearly impossible to differentiate fathers from sons, particularly for booksellers/printers/publishers who may be working from the same street address (and in those cases occupation isn’t any better for differentiating them).
As Ted pointed out, even a twenty year discrepancy in dates of activity can be confusing.
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What about a greater use of century dates instead of specific years of activity in the AAP? Or maybe it would be better to prefer an occupation as an addition.
That might be more useful to the user.
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In addition to adding a 670, are we agreed that the 046 activity dates can be adjusted freely when the AAP activity dates are not being changed? Or do 046 and 100 $d have to match? The argument for uncoupling them
would be that the 046 dates are data about the person and ought to reflect our best information, while the 100 $d dates are primarily a piece of differentiating text for the AAP and as such don't need to be optimized for accuracy in the case of inherently
fluid "active" dates.
Stephen
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Gemberling, Ted P <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
But what if it’s a discrepancy of 10 years? 20 years?
I’d say 20 years is serious because we often think of that as a generation. Sons with the same names
often continue the works of their fathers, at least in medicine where I catalog. If I see a new edition by a person with the same name 20 years after the author was supposed to have died or ceased to be active, I assume it’s his son.
Ted Gemberling
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I'd say leave it alone. One can always add a 670 with further information. There are also the more recently added 672/673 fields as well to record titles
associated with the person. Doing that frames not only the dates but also the subject matter.
Richard
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A colleague has found additional information about a 16th century person who has already been established
with active dates. She would like to revise the AAP to show the new information (a difference of 4 years). My thought is that this kind of dates is inherently subjective and variable and shouldn't be changed unless egregiously wrong. Otherwise we could
have an endless series of changes. Is that the general consensus?
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