Dave et al.,
Is it a problem that, as we’ve seen from comments posted, different catalogers will arrive at a different result with the exact same presentation of form of name simply based on our preconceptions about what is and isn’t part of the preferred name? Should we have a policy statement that at least tells us generally what to do? “Generally, treat a nickname in quotes as part of the preferred name for the person. Make a variant access point in the form of ‘Surname, Nickname.’” I know we rely on cataloger judgment, but if Bob Maxwell and I feel like we’d do one thing and John Hostage would do something else for the exact same name found on a title page, some consistency in the form of a general best practice might be useful.
Stephen hit the nail on the head for why we didn’t bring forward that old LCRI; while it was clear that the nicknames often represented a variant form (my colleague Ana Cristan could cite the “Bud Schulman rule” by heart), we had many cases from the catalogers working with our American Folklife Center collections where the ‘nickname’ was *always* recorded with the given name, and staff confirmed with the creators (usually musicians) that they considered both parts to be their given name and they never used their nickname alone. As Stephen says, names have such variety.
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What about a name like bassist Donald "Duck" Dunn, where the nickname appears to have a sequential association with the given name? I agree that the quotes around the nickname in the Dunn cases signifies that "Duck" is something other than a given middle name, but I'm not sure that rules out "Dunn, Donald "Duck" ..." as a useful VAP if supported by usage evidence.
Names have such variety, I'm not sure what possibilities I'd want ruled out in a policy statement focused on this kind of usage.
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Prochazka,David <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Some guidance in the form of an LC-PCC PS would certainly be helpful.
RDA doesn’t say what to do, but it’s pretty clear that in the two AAPs you cited that “Skip” and “Slim” are not middle names. I just don’t think that the person’s intention is to treat those nicknames as middle names. They are variant first names. I would have treated them as such:
UF Miller, Skip
Pickens, Ryan, 1972-
UF Pickens, Slim, 1972-
I think we should bring back the LCRI that didn’t get moved into the LC-PCC PSs.
I’d follow the pattern used in these RDA AAPs:
Miller, William “Skip”
Pickens, Ryan “Slim”, 1972-
I don’t see anything in RDA that says to ‘deconstruct’ the elements of a personal name and prefer some elements more than others.
Of course, ant variety of VAPs might be added.
That's what I would do.
Adam L. Schiff
University of Washington Libraries
Seattle, WA 98195-2900
I can't find any guidance for dealing with a name that appears in source as, in this instance, XJ 'George' Bailey. Perhaps Bailey, XJ with a 400 for Bailey, George?
Stephen Hearn, Metadata Strategist
Data Management & Access, University Libraries
University of Minnesota
160 Wilson Library
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Minneapolis, MN 55455