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Chair, CEAL Committee on Technical Processing
Coordinator, Distinctive Collections Technical Services
University of Washington
Seattle, WA 98195
Dear Casey and all,
a) Definition. According to 24.17, a body whose immediate parent body is the heading for a government, or whose immediate parent body is entered subordinately to the heading for a government, is treated as a government body. A body is treated as a nongovernment body, however, if its immediate parent body is entered under a heading that is not the name of a government.
b) When to qualify. If a government body other than an institution (school, library, laboratory, hospital, archive, museum, prison, etc.) is entered under its own name, add the name of the government as qualifier unless the government's name (or an understandable surrogate of the government's name) is already present in the name. …
not 110 2# $a You zheng bo wu guan (China : Republic : 1949- )
This practice is confusing to Chinese catalogers as well. The PS 16.4 is kind of carryover the LCRI without elaboration and make it difficult for interpretation for cases like the example given. CEAL community recently formed a working group to look into the issues associated with Taiwan place names in AAPs. Charlene Chou, chair of CEAL Committee on Technical Processing, will take lead on this WG and provide more information later.
Head, Chinese Japanese Korean Cataloging & Metadata Unit
Metadata Services, UC San Diego Library
9500 Gilman Drive, 0175K, La Jolla, CA 92093-0175
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Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 2:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] Place name qualifier for a corporate body in Taiwan
Taiwan (Republic of China) headings regularly cause confusion for those of us who don't encounter them regularly. As far as I've learned from previous cases that I've questioned, "location qualifier" does not include qualifiers indicating national character like this one, where the qualifier used corresponds to the jurisdictional name given correctly in the 410 below as China (Republic : 1949-).
Principal Serials Cataloger
Original and Special Materials Cataloging, Columbia University Libraries
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On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Stephen Hearn <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
The authority includes a 410 reference from "Guo li Zhongzheng wen hua zhong xin (China). $b Guo jia jiao xiang yue tuan". The orchestra's AAP may have inherited the qualifier error from name of the National Chiang Kai-Shek Cultural Center, which also has an AAP qualified by (China) as seen in the 410. It seems clear to me that both names should be qualified by (Taiwan), not (China).
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Casey Mullin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I'm upgrading to RDA the record for the National Symphony Orchestra of Taiwan (no2008142999). The cataloger who originally set this up added a qualifier to the heading, presumably applying AACR2 24.4C2 (that is, the "body has a character that is national, state, provincial, etc.") With a generic name like this, it makes sense. RDA's 188.8.131.52 allows this, so the presence of the qualifier is not problematic.
What puzzles me is that the place qualifier was chosen as "China." Is this permissible in RDA? Wouldn't "Taiwan" be more appropriate? The clause at LC-PCC PS 16.4 says "Use “Taiwan” for the province of Taiwan only as a location qualifier." Now,I read this as allowing the use of "Taiwan", but not necessarily requiring the use of "Taiwan" in such cases. Still, "Taiwan "seems the prudent choice.
If practice here used to be different (i.e., specifically calling for "China"), I can't find an old LCRI that says so. In the spirit of not changing a 1xx unless absolutely necessary, I will leave it alone if someone can cite justification for the choice of "China" as qualifier for a body located in Taiwan.
Thanks so much,