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There are so many more comprehensible ways these could have been phrased. We could be invited to see also “the body founded by the person”, or “the body the person founded”. The phrase “Founded corporate body of person” is (one assumes) clear to whoever devised it, is obscure to you and me, and will be meaningless to a user. Regards Richard ________________________ Richard Moore Authority Control Team Manager The British Library Tel.: +44 (0)1937 546104 E-mail: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Adam L. Schiff Sent: 07 September 2016 23:57 To: [log in to unmask]; Program for Cooperative Cataloging Subject: [RDA-L] "founded corporate body" now three wordy RDs Has anyone yet noticed this change to Appendix K from the August release of the RDA Toolkit: “founded corporate body” has now been split up into three designators with truly unfortunate phrases: founded corporate body of person An organization that the person founded. founded corporate body of family An organization that the family founded. founded corporate body of corporate body A corporate body that the other corporate body founded. Besides the unwieldiness of these phrases, and the difficulty that catalogers will have interpreting them, I’m wondering if PCC will make any effort to replace all of the existing 5XXs that have the old RD with the appropriate new one? Adam L. Schiff Principal Cataloger University of Washington Libraries Cataloging & Metadata Services Box 352900 Seattle, WA 98195-2900 [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> ****************************************************************************************************************** Experience the British Library online at www.bl.uk<http://www.bl.uk/> The British Library’s latest Annual Report and Accounts : www.bl.uk/aboutus/annrep/index.html<http://www.bl.uk/aboutus/annrep/index.html> Help the British Library conserve the world's knowledge. Adopt a Book. www.bl.uk/adoptabook<http://www.bl.uk/adoptabook> The Library's St Pancras site is WiFi - enabled ***************************************************************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> : The contents of this e-mail must not be disclosed or copied without the sender's consent. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the British Library. The British Library does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. ***************************************************************************************************************** Think before you print