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Bob Maxwell wrote: “This is an expression to work relationship. At the moment, RDA doesn’t recognize any expression to work relationship (it’s not just confined to series) between different works. And yet such relationships do exist and are important. The RSC Relationship Designators Working Group is proposing to remedy this. We’ll see how that plays at the RSC meeting next month, and how it works out in terms later RDA revisions.” Here’s another common situation illustrating work to expression relationships: 130 _0 223B casebook series 380 Series (Publications) ǂ2 lcsh 500 1_ ǂi Editor: ǂa Peschel, Bill ǂw r 100 1_ Arendt, Erich. ǂt Poems. ǂk Selections 400 1_ Arendt, Erich. ǂt Trug doch die Nacht den Albatros 500 1_ ǂi Editor: ǂa Albers, B. ǂq (Bernhard) ǂw r 130 _0 Catálogo Histórias mestiças 380 Exhibition catalogs ǂ2 lcsh 381 Pedrosa and Schwarcz 430 _0 Histórias mestiças 500 1_ ǂi Editor: ǂa Schwarcz, Lilia Moritz ǂw r 500 1_ ǂi Editor: ǂa Pedrosa, Adriano ǂw r 130 _0 China-Europe relations (Shambaugh, Sandschneider, and Zhou) 381 Shambaugh, Sandschneider, and Zhou 381 Routledge (Firm) ǂ2 naf 500 1_ ǂi Editor: ǂa Shambaugh, David L. ǂw r 500 1_ ǂi Editor: ǂa Sandschneider, Eberhard, ǂd 1955- ǂw r 500 1_ ǂi Editor: ǂa Zhou, Hong, ǂd 1952- ǂw r 130 _0 Dangerous visions 380 Short stories ǂa Science fiction ǂ2 lcgft 381 Ellison 500 1_ ǂi Editor: ǂa Ellison, Harlan ǂw r 130 _0 Dortmunder Schriften zur Musikpädagogik und Musikwissenschaft 380 Series (Publications) ǂa Monographic series ǂ2 lcsh 500 1_ ǂi Editor: ǂa Erlach, Thomas, ǂd 1970- ǂw r 500 1_ ǂi Editor: ǂa Oehl, Klaus, ǂd 1970- ǂw r 130 _0 Great horror stories (Bernard) 380 Short stories ǂa Horror fiction ǂ2 lcgft 381 Bernard 500 1_ ǂi Editor: ǂa Bernard, Christine, ǂd 1926-2000 ǂw r Each of these examples has a work access point in the 1XX and a person associated with expressions in the 5XX. Adam Schiff University of Washington Libraries From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Robert Maxwell Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 11:49 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: "In series": using J.2.4 Whole-Part Work Relationships Richard, You are correct, RDA only recognizes the “in series” relationship as a whole-part work level relationship. This works for most series. However, it seems evident that certain series have a much stronger relationship to the expression of a work. Loeb Classical Library is one example. People think of “the Loeb edition of the Aeneid” or “the Loeb translation of Aeneid” or whatever classical author or work. It is not helpful to them to link the series “Loeb classical library” to the work “Virgil. Aeneis”, which simply conveys that somewhere in the corpus of expressions of the Aeneid one of the expressions is in the Loeb classical library. It serves the user in this case to link the actual expression to the series, and it is, in fact, not really helpful to link the work to the series. This is an expression to work relationship. At the moment, RDA doesn’t recognize any expression to work relationship (it’s not just confined to series) between different works. And yet such relationships do exist and are important. The RSC Relationship Designators Working Group is proposing to remedy this. We’ll see how that plays at the RSC meeting next month, and how it works out in terms later RDA revisions. Meanwhile, as a classicist it is my opinion that certain translations and editions of classical authors are so closely tied to specific series that it is important to record the relationship; this is probably true of other types of series as well. Bob Robert L. Maxwell Ancient Languages and Special Collections Librarian 6728 Harold B. Lee Library Brigham Young University Provo, UT 84602 (801)422-5568 "We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves to the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842. From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lammert, Richard Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 9:07 AM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: "In series": using J.2.4 Whole-Part Work Relationships RDA J.2.4, "Whole-Part Work Relationships," provides for the "in series" relationship. This is in section J.2, "Relationship Designators for Related Works" (my emphasis). Thus, a work can be part of a series, but an expression cannot be (in fact, RDA provides for no relationships that I can see relating expressions to works--unless I have missed something, which is entirely possible). This becomes important in the real world in the way in which series are commonly viewed. Although the relationship as spelled out in RDA works in many cases, in some cases, it contradicts the way in which people think of series relationships. Take, as an example, a Latin work by the author "Sine nomine," whose work "Opus magnum" is published in the Loeb classical library. Reading RDA closely (or rigidly, if you prefer), the following relationship is possible: 100 0 Sine nomine. $t Opus magnum 530 0 $i In series: $a Loeb classical library $w r However, both of the following authorities make a relationship between an expression and a work, and therefore these relationships cannot be made according to J.2.4: 100 0 Sine nomine. $t Opus magnum. $l Latin $s (Loeb classical library) 530 0 $i In series: $a Loeb classical library $w r and 100 0 Sine nomine. $t Opus magnum. $l English $s (Brown) 530 0 $i In series: $a Loeb classical library $w r Is this close (or rigid) reading of RDA correct, or is there some provision I have missed for relating expressions to works? Or is this a case where RDA does not reflect the real world? Richard Lammert -- Rev. Richard A. Lammert e-mail: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Technical Services Librarian mail: 6600 N. Clinton St. Systems Librarian Fort Wayne, IN 46825-4916 Kroemer Library phone: 260-452-3148<tel:260-452-3148> Concordia Theological Seminary