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Curious why you all are even dealing with CDs. It would seem the main thing to do with them is extract them to a drive or three. Unless you are a lending library, why go through all this trouble in this century?

Honestly curious, not criticizing.

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Lou Judson
Intuitive Audio
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On Dec 11, 2016, at 11:52 AM, Malcolm <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I use the same as you do - little donuts that go around the center hole and do not touch any data area. Years ago I used an archival type of these labels but have since lost the source's info. I'm now using straight paper donuts but am not particularly pleased with the adhesive and would like to find something closer to the labels I originally used. Where do you get yours?
> Best,
> Malcolm
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> On 12/9/2016 10:53 AM, David Glasser wrote:
>> We’ve switched to “core” labels which do not cover any of the disc’s data area, but still provide ample space for printed information (with a small font!).
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>> David Glasser
>> Chief Engineer
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>>> On Dec 9, 2016, at 1:46 PM, Gary A. Galo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>>> Unfortunately I am experiencing the same thing. Thank The Force for printable CD-Rs!
>>> 
>>> Gary
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dave Burnham
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>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Sticky CD sleeves
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>>> This is off topic but I found that the paper labels designed for CDRs render the discs useless after a few years.
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>>> db
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>>>> On Dec 9, 2016, at 2:50 PM, Inigo Cubillo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Years ago, as I reached 200 CDs in my personal collection, I decided
>>>> to buy one of those pretty neat soft suitcases made to store 200 CDs
>>>> in 8-pocket sheets bounded as in a book. That was an era when I used
>>>> to travel a lot, for medium-large stays at construction sites, and I
>>>> wanted to take my CD collection with me. I had acquired an also pretty
>>>> neat CITIZEN brand CD player, back in 1991, which is sized like a pile
>>>> of five CD cases, to give you an idea. So to move from site to site
>>>> with the player and the 200-CD suitcase seemed quite reasonable. The
>>>> player is quite good; it still is my home CD player, still in good
>>>> shape and perfect working order. Back in '91 it costed to me some
>>>> $400, which by then was a serious expense for me. The good quality and
>>>> endurance have largely ustified the expense! During these years I've had other CD players that regularly have failed in two years!
>>>> Anyway, back to the subject... The CD suitcase was useful for three
>>>> months or so. Then I noticed that the treat I was giving to the CDs,
>>>> when extracting them from the pockets and storing them back, was not
>>>> good for preserving them, if only because of the friction of the disc
>>>> surfaces against the plastic and the cloth of the pockets. I read
>>>> somewhere that this in the end will scratch and ruin the CDs, while
>>>> the proper storage in plastic cases avoided any scratching, for the
>>>> disc is taken from the front, and the cases hold them only by the
>>>> center hole. I discarded the suitcase and put all the discs again in their original cases, forgetting the idea.
>>>> Of course, almost all my original CDs, 25 years after, still work
>>>> fine. One or two of certain brands have deteriorated until unplayable,
>>>> but this was a problem of manufacture, as I read later.
>>>> Invariably, a few ones that were copies from the originals, have all
>>>> failed.
>>>> I've also noticed the sticky ink problem with the toner used in paper
>>>> photocopies when stored in PVC bags. These are ruined on a few months!
>>>> Inigo Cubillo
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