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One thing I have consistently observed is that, initially, the Mitsui/MAMA gold CD-Rs have much higher error rates than good conventional discs like the Taiyo Yudens, using Nero DiscSpeed's disc quality scan. All of the errors are correctable, however. The question of course, is how stable each will be for the long haul.

Gary

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Gary Galo
Audio Engineer Emeritus
The Crane School of Music
SUNY at Potsdam, NY 13676

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From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lou Judson
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 11:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] CD Labels - was Sticky CD sleeves

Has it been proven this far down the road that gold CDRs really last longer than normal ones? Seems to me it is still a chemical process and they would be un-permanent, even if they do last somewhat longer... Is the jury still out?
Lou Judson
Intuitive Audio
415-883-2689

On Dec 11, 2016, at 11:56 PM, Aaron Coe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Yeah, I don't even offer optical media as preservation medium option anymore.  I used to provide my clients with MAM-A 24 Kt. Gold Archive CD-Rs & DVD-Rs, labeled using a Rimage Prism Plus thermal printer.  The printer cost a pretty penny back in the day, but it printed labels that wouldn't smear if they got wet or were rubbed.  Very professional looking.
> 
> -Aaron