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On the other hand, what about “Kings. $2 lcdgt”? This seems more like an occupation to me. And if so, being a prince is, at least in some cases, more than just a status, it entails certain duties, i.e. “occupation”, e.g., the Prince of Wales, or Prince Philip. Maybe the answer is “it depends.”

 

Bob

 

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My vote is for 368, a field I use to record a term conveying a person's status rather than an occupational or professional class-of-persons term. For example, I recently recorded Political prisoners in 368 $c.
Nancy

On 12/14/2016 10:28 AM, Adam L. Schiff wrote:

Collective wisdom:

 

What RDA element/MARC field is the best place to put the controlled LCSH term “Princes” (or “Princesses, for that matter)?   Looking through personal name authorities, it appears that most people are using MARC 374, which is occupation/profession.  But some records have the term in 368 $c – other designation associated with the person.   Is being a prince/princess an occupation?  Or just something else that is best recorded as an other designation?  (And different from an actual title, which goes into 368 $d).   Here are some examples from the NAF:

 

100 0   Louis, ǂc Dauphin of France, ǂd 1729-1765

368     ǂd Dauphin of France ǂs 1729 ǂt 1765

374     Princes ǂ2 lcsh

 

100 0   Sadatake, ǂc Prince, grandson of Reigen, Emperor of Japan, ǂd 1700-1754

368      ǂd Prince, grandson of Reigen, Emperor of Japan

374      Princes ǂ2 lcsh

 

100 0   Hikaru Genji ǂc (Fictitious character)

368      ǂc Fictitious characters ǂ2 lcsh

374      Princes ǂ2 lcsh

 

100 0   Beatrix, ǂc Queen of the Netherlands, ǂd 1938-

368      ǂd Queen of the Netherlands

374      Queens ǂa Princesses ǂ2 lcsh

400 0   Beatrix, ǂc Princess of the Netherlands, ǂd 1938-

 

but

 

100 0   Hassan bin Talal, ǂc Prince of Jordan

368     ǂc Princes ǂ2 lcsh

368     ǂd Prince of Jordan

 

100 0   José, ǂc Prince of Brazil, ǂd 1761-1788

368     ǂc Princes ǂ2 lcsh

368     ǂd Prince of Brazil

 

100 1   Comnena, Anna, ǂd 1083-

368      ǂc Princesses ǂ2 lcsh

 

100 0   Electra ǂc (Greek mythological figure)

368     ǂc Greek mythological figure

368    ǂc Princesses ǂ2 lcsh

 

 

 

 

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