Will check, but why isn't there a $q in the 100 field? Gene On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:14 AM, Prochazka,David <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Yes, adding such references from former versions of a headings are VERY > useful for automated updating of access points on bibliographic records in > some ILSs, e.g. III. > > > > David— > > > > David Procházka | Music/Special Materials Cataloger | The University of > Akron | Bierce Library—261C | Akron, Ohio 44325-1712 | 330-972-6260 > <(330)%20972-6260> | [log in to unmask] > > > > *From:* Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask] > GOV] *On Behalf Of *Adam L. Schiff > *Sent:* Thursday, December 01, 2016 8:51 AM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: [PCCLIST] n 50083205 and adding Jr. when upgrading names > > > > The previously established form should also be recorded in a 4XX field. > Over the weekend I closed out Fidel Castro's dates, and earlier this week I > was contacted by LC because I did not include a reference from the former > form. I did not think such a reference was normally made, but I was > pointed to the FAQ on personal names: https://www.loc.gov/aba/pcc/ > naco/personnamefaq.html#13 > > > > *Example 2* > > *AACR2:* > 100 1 $a Walter, David, ‡d 1948- > *RDA:* > 100 1 $a Walter, David, ‡d 1948-2012 > 400 1 $a Walter, David, ‡d 1948- $w nne > > a) Date of death added and record recoded to RDA > b) Reference is valid under RDA > > So, your record should probably look like this: > > 100 1 Espenshade, Edward B., ǂc Jr., ǂd 1910-2008 > 375 Males $2 lcdgt > 377 eng > 378 $q Edward Bowman > 400 1 Espenshade, Edward Bowman, ǂd 1910- ǂw nnea > > > > Note that the fuller form of name should have been recorded in 378 as > above. I updated the 375 to reflect current PCC policy to prefer > controlled vocabulary for this element, and the recommendations that PCC > Policy Committee have recently approved from the ad hoc group on coding > gender: http://www.loc.gov/aba/pcc/documents/PoCo-2016/Gender_375%20field_ > RecommendationReport.pdf Finally, I believe that the coding of the $w in > the 400 in this case should be nnea because there's no evidence that the > name without Jr. in it represents usage of the person, so in this case the > previous AACR2 form is not a valid reference in RDA. > > > > Adam Schiff > > University of Washington Libraries > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Program for Cooperative Cataloging <[log in to unmask]> on > behalf of John Hostage <[log in to unmask]> > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 4:49:18 PM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: n 50083205 and adding Jr. when upgrading names > > > > Not only is Jr. part of Espenshade's preferred name, but the evidence in > the 670s indicates that his name is Edward B. Espenshade, Jr. In other > words, his middle name should be represented by an initial. As Bob > indicated, when making a change to an authorized access point, you have to > evaluate the name as to whether it reflects the preferred name according to > RDA. Older authority records like this are especially likely to deviate > from that standard, even if they have been coded RDA by machine. > > Also, best practice is to put 040 $e before $c for consistency. > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > John Hostage > > Senior Continuing Resources Cataloger > > Harvard Library--Information and Technical Services > > Langdell Hall 194 > > Harvard Law School Library > > Cambridge, MA 02138 > > [log in to unmask] > > +(1)(617) 495-3974 <(617)%20495-3974> (voice) > > +(1)(617) 496-4409 <(617)%20496-4409> (fax) > ISNI 0000 0000 4028 0917 > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Program for Cooperative Cataloging [[log in to unmask]] on > behalf of Shorten, Jay [[log in to unmask]] > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 18:09 > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* [PCCLIST] n 50083205 and adding Jr. when upgrading names > > I recently closed n 50083205 Espenshade, Edward Bowman, ‡d 1910- , which > was already coded as the RDA form, to Espenshade, Edward Bowman, ‡d > 1910-2008 . It has been pointed out to me that the source I quoted and some > bibliographical records have “Jr.” as part of the name. Should I therefore > have upgraded the name to Espenshade, Edward Bowman, ‡c Jr., ‡d 1910-2008 ? > I had the idea somehow that when closing dates, if the name is indicated to > be RDA or RDA-compatible, for the sake of not making needless changes, you > accept the name heading as is and you don’t completely re-cast the name > into an RDA form unless there is either an error in the name or the date or > it has the dreaded 667 note. > > > > e.g. In adding the death date to Espenshade, Gilbert H. ‡q (Gilbert > Howry), ‡d 1912- you would not re-cast the name as Espenshade, Gilbert H., > ‡d 1912-1992, even though that is a valid RDA form, since the current form > is equally valid under RDA. But if it turned up that he was born in 1913 or > that his middle name was Lowry and not Howry, then you could re-cast the > name to Espenshade, Gilbert L., ‡d 1913-1992. > > > > So I guess another of asking this question is: Is the absence of “Jr” in > the name considered an error? > > > > Jay Shorten > > Cataloger, Monographs and Electronic Resources > > Associate Professor of Bibliography > > Catalog Department > > University Libraries > > University of Oklahoma > > Co-owner, PERSNAME-L, the list about personal names in bibliographic and > authority records > > [log in to unmask] >