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Will check, but why isn't there a $q in the 100 field?

Gene

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:14 AM, Prochazka,David <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Yes, adding such references from former versions of a headings are VERY
> useful for automated updating of access points on bibliographic records in
> some ILSs, e.g. III.
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> *From:* Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]
> GOV] *On Behalf Of *Adam L. Schiff
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 01, 2016 8:51 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [PCCLIST] n 50083205 and adding Jr. when upgrading names
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> The previously established form should also be recorded in a 4XX field.
> Over the weekend I closed out Fidel Castro's dates, and earlier this week I
> was contacted by LC because I did not include a reference from the former
> form.  I did not think such a reference was normally made, but I was
> pointed to the FAQ on personal names: https://www.loc.gov/aba/pcc/
> naco/personnamefaq.html#13
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> *Example 2*
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> *AACR2:*
> 100 1 $a Walter, David, ‡d 1948-
> *RDA:*
> 100 1 $a Walter, David, ‡d 1948-2012
> 400 1 $a Walter, David, ‡d 1948- $w nne
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> a) Date of death added and record recoded to RDA
> b) Reference is valid under RDA
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> So, your record should probably look like this:
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> 100 1 Espenshade, Edward B., ǂc Jr., ǂd 1910-2008
> 375    Males $2 lcdgt
> 377    eng
> 378    $q Edward Bowman
> 400 1 Espenshade, Edward Bowman, ǂd 1910- ǂw nnea
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> Note that the fuller form of name should have been recorded in 378 as
> above.  I updated the 375 to reflect current PCC policy to prefer
> controlled vocabulary for this element, and the recommendations that PCC
> Policy Committee have recently approved from the ad hoc group on coding
> gender: http://www.loc.gov/aba/pcc/documents/PoCo-2016/Gender_375%20field_
> RecommendationReport.pdf  Finally, I believe that the coding of the $w in
> the 400 in this case should be nnea because there's no evidence that the
> name without Jr. in it represents usage of the person, so in this case the
> previous AACR2 form is not a valid reference in RDA.
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> Adam Schiff
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> University of Washington Libraries
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> *From:* Program for Cooperative Cataloging <[log in to unmask]> on
> behalf of John Hostage <[log in to unmask]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 4:49:18 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: n 50083205 and adding Jr. when upgrading names
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> Not only is Jr. part of Espenshade's preferred name, but the evidence in
> the 670s indicates that his name is Edward B. Espenshade, Jr.  In other
> words, his middle name should be represented by an initial.  As Bob
> indicated, when making a change to an authorized access point, you have to
> evaluate the name as to whether it reflects the preferred name according to
> RDA.  Older authority records like this are especially likely to deviate
> from that standard, even if they have been coded RDA by machine.
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> Also, best practice is to put 040 $e before $c for consistency.
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> *From:* Program for Cooperative Cataloging [[log in to unmask]] on
> behalf of Shorten, Jay [[log in to unmask]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 18:09
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> *Subject:* [PCCLIST] n 50083205 and adding Jr. when upgrading names
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> I recently closed n  50083205 Espenshade, Edward Bowman, ‡d 1910- , which
> was already coded as the RDA form, to Espenshade, Edward Bowman, ‡d
> 1910-2008 . It has been pointed out to me that the source I quoted and some
> bibliographical records have “Jr.” as part of the name. Should I therefore
> have upgraded the name to Espenshade, Edward Bowman, ‡c Jr., ‡d 1910-2008 ?
> I had the idea somehow that when closing dates, if the name is indicated to
> be RDA or RDA-compatible, for the sake of not making needless changes, you
> accept the name heading as is and you don’t completely re-cast the name
> into an RDA form unless there is either an error in the name or the date or
> it has the dreaded 667 note.
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> e.g. In adding the death date to Espenshade, Gilbert H. ‡q (Gilbert
> Howry), ‡d 1912- you would not re-cast the name as Espenshade, Gilbert H.,
> ‡d 1912-1992, even though that is a valid RDA form, since the current form
> is equally valid under RDA. But if it turned up that he was born in 1913 or
> that his middle name was Lowry and not Howry, then you could re-cast the
> name to Espenshade, Gilbert L., ‡d 1913-1992.
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> So I guess another of asking this question is: Is the absence of “Jr” in
> the name considered an error?
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> Jay Shorten
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