The comments for Slide 40 in the same set say, "RDA Record dates either as parts of the authorized access point representing the person, or as separate elements, or as both. Recording the year alone for birth and death date; add the month or month and day if necessary to distinguish one access point from another." In the case of the Reg Park's , the two AAPs are already distinguished  by the addition of the death year to one of the AAPs, so year alone suffices for the birth date. 

I read slide 80 as referring to a case where the same preferred name and birth year have resulted in identical AAPs, and not as applying generally whenever two people have the same preferred name and birth year regardless of their AAPs--though I agree that it could be read the other way.


On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Lammert, Richard <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Slide number 80 in the most recent set of slides for NACO training (found at for module 2, Describing persons, has this note: "-  Record the person’s date of birth applying the basic instructions on recording dates associated with persons given under 9.3.1.  If the person was born in the same year as another person with the same name, record the date of birth in the form [year] [month] [day]." The date given for this slide is May 1, 2013, so the training has been the same since then.

There is no indication that date of death is to be taken into account. "If the person was born in the same year ..." then the date of birth must be unique.

Richard Lammert

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Stanley Elswick - NOAA Federal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
When and if the living person dies, the records will remain distinguished. I think it is OK to have them as they are.


On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 3:26 PM, Gene Fieg <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Presumably, the first one has not died.  Therefore these two records represent two different people.

Gene Fieg

On Friday, February 3, 2017, John Hostage <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Is it permissible to have two NARs that are distinguished by the presence or absence of a death date?  I'm thinking of
Park, Reg, ǂd 1928-
Park, Reg, ǂd 1928-2007

The OCLC control function will generally add a death date automatically to an entry like "Shakespeare, William, 1564-"
but in the case of the 2 Reg Parks it opens a window to choose between the two, which is a good thing.

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