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My opinion:

We’ve encountered cases like this, where there might, slightly redundantly, be one collective conference for each individual conference, just to carry the reference structure.

LC-PCC-PS for 11.13.1.8 says: “For ongoing conferences, separate authority records may be created for the collective conference”.

Generally a new collective conference NAR is created when a conference changes its name, so “ongoing conference” in this PS has to mean “ongoing conference with the same name”. In the case under consideration, there is no ongoing conference with the same name, as each name occurs only once – and they can’t be treated as variants. So no collective conference name exists, and there can be no collective NARs.

The PS finishes: “A record for the collective conference should always be made to connect the earlier and later names of the collective conference”

There’s nothing there to say that see-also references can’t be made between individual conference names, when no collective name exists. Each is very much a predecessor of the next.

What would be useful?


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Richard

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Yeah, in a situation like this one, I think the see also references would be better on the individual conference names and no collective conference name records made at all.



Adam



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According to LC-PCC PS for 11.13.1.8 and 11.13.18.1, the see also references would be made only on the record for the collective conferences, but it does seem a little excessive when each name has only one occurrence.

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Yes, the primary source of information for the preferred name are resources issued by the bodies, and the name as found on the title page.  You’re not required to do further research unless you have a conflict between two entities that have the same preferred name.  The only thing you have to determine is whether “Working Girls Societies”, “Working Girls’ Clubs”, and “Working Women’s Clubs” are corporate bodies in and of themselves.  If they are, then you would have subordinate entry instead of the direct entry you show below.  It doesn’t seem as if any of them could be considered entities unto themselves, so I think the access points you have given below are correct.

If authority records were being established for these conferences, they could be linked together using see also references for the earlier and later names.

Adam Schiff
University of Washington Libraries

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Subject: names of individual conferences/meetings

I have the conference proceedings of 3 conferences/conventions/meetings. As far as I can tell, they are all the same conference series. However, the name of each is different. I am doing monographic cataloging and I want to construct an AAP for each individual conference. Is it as simple as choosing the preferred name directly from the piece?

For example:

National Convention of Working Girls Societies $n (1st : $d 1890 : $c New York, N.Y.)

National Convention of Working Girls’ Clubs $n (2nd : $d 1894 : $c New York, N.Y.)

National Convention of Working Women’s Clubs $n (3rd : $d 1897 : $c New York, N.Y.)

Thanks,
Jessica Janecki



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