And yet, what are the odds that these will in fact be the strings displayed to users for, say, the next 20 years? (Actually, we would count ourselves lucky to have a public catalog that displays relationship designators in any form.)
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These designators aren’t intended for humans. In fact I’m coming to the conclusion that the whole thing is no longer intended for humans.
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Richard
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John,
This is, in my opinion, an example of tinkering with the relationship designators gone awry. Until the April 2016 update K.2.3 had the relationship designator “incumbent” (with no explicit reciprocal given, but presumably the horrible “officiated corporate body”). “Incumbent”/hypothetical ”incumbent of” would be the right designator for this relationship. However, in April 2016 “incumbent” was deleted and “officer”, “chief executive” and “trustee” were substituted.
I agree “Chief executive of” is not appropriate for the relationship you cite. There was a perfectly good designator pre-April 2016, but bizarrely it was removed.
Bob
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Relationship designators have not been defined for every possible relationship, nor is that even possible.
The NAR for Donald Trump has been updated with a
510 1 ǂi Chief executive of: ǂa United States. ǂb President (2017- : Trump) ǂw r
The NAR for his term in office has a reciprocal 500. Obama has received the same treatment.
However, Trump is not chief executive of his term in office. He is, sadly, chief executive of the entire United States.
These AAPs for heads of state, etc., are strange concoctions. They are not really corporate bodies. They merely represent a specific role of the person, when he or she acts in an official capacity.
There are times when a simple “see also” relationship would be both simpler and more accurate. This is one of them.
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