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I only record dates exactly as found when I'm not sure what they mean.  If
all I can find is one source that says "1954-08-03" then I record that as
found and don't make any assumptions about it being August or March.

Robert

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Robert Bratton

Cataloging Librarian

Jacob Burns Law Library

George Washington University

Washington, DC



On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Wilson, Pete <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> It seems like all we really need to do in the 670 $b is give the facts
> clearly and unambiguously.  We aren’t transcribing text—we’re getting and
> giving information.  It may be pretty clear to most that the date
> 1954-08-03 (from the 8.12.1.3 example) means August 3 rather than March 8,
> but I’d spell that out just to make sure.  I see no value in attempting to
> record the exact text as found.
>
>
>
> Pete Wilson
>
> Vanderbilt University
>
>
>
> *From:* Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]
> GOV] *On Behalf Of *Ian Fairclough
> *Sent:* Friday, April 28, 2017 2:24 PM
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: [PCCLIST] recording date of birth in field 670 of name
> authority records
>
>
>
> Dear PCCLIST readers,
>
>
>
> Thanks to Mark Ehlert and John Hostage for their responses (my apologies
> for confusion over EDTF and ISO 8601).   And for mentioning RDA 8.12 Source
> Data Found, whose LCC-PC PS refers to DCM Z1 670.  I think the instruction
> there should apply to dates in subfield a but not in subfield b.  Here's
> why.
>
>
>
> There is no question about instructions to record the date on which data
> is found in a particular source, in subfield a of field 670: Month spelled
> out, followed by day and year.  But in subfield b, where one records the
> data found, the intention of RDA is to record the data *as found* rather
> than adjust it to the Month, day, year format.  You do that in field 046,
> but not in field 670.
>
>
>
> 8.12.1.3 has an example which illustrates this point.  The birth and death
> dates were found to be in YYYY-MM-DD format:
>
>
>
> Catalogue Bn-Opale plus, via WWW, March 11, 2009. Authorized access point:
> Colette (1873–1954); variant access points: Willy, Colette (1873–1954);
> Colette, Gabrielle Sidonie (1873–1954); Colette, Sidonie Gabrielle
> (1873–1954); nationality: France; language: French; gender: female; roles:
> author, performer; birth date: 1873–01–28; death date: 1954–08–03
>
>
>
> RDA 29.6.1.3 Recording Source Consulted also has an example demonstrating
> that the intent of RDA was not to rearrange a date statement:
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> Wikipedia, viewed December 2, 2007 (Howard Fast; Howard Melvin Fast (11
> November 1914, New York City–12 March 2003, Old Greenwich, Connecticut) was
> a Jewish American novelist and television writer, who wrote also under the
> pen names E.V. Cunningham and Walter Ericson)
>
>
>
> Sincerely - Ian
>
>
>
> Ian Fairclough
>
> Cataloging and Metadata Services Librarian
>
> George Mason University
>
> 703-993-2938
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