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It's not just you, John. MP3 is dreadful. It's like taking a giant step back to the early days of the CD, when the players and discs sounded harsh, dry and 2-dimensional. Now that huge amounts of storage are dirt-cheap, and download times are incredibly fast (aided by excellent services like WeTransfer and DropBox), there's no need to use MP3 garbage. Digital audio has evolved to the point where there's absolutely no cause for complaint. Indeed, it's been there for a long time now. Why take us back to a time when there was?

Best,
Gary


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From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Haley
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Mp3 is officially dead

I have no doubt that many listeners cannot hear a difference, but I have never any trouble doing so.  I only use lossy formats when easy emailing is the goal.  Otherwise I have no use for them.  Even FLAC format is a lot less useful in these days of cheap hard drive space and online storage.
But that's just me.

Best,
John Haley



On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Eli Bildirici < [log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Meh. It sounds fine using modern encoders at the higher bitrates it is 
> typically used at by most music stores today - indistinguishable for 
> most from the source. Even expert listeners have trouble:
>  
> http://www.music.mcgill.ca/~hockman/documents/Pras_presentation2009.pd
> f
>
> At lower bitrates, the distortion mp3 introduces becomes much more 
> pronounced, regardless of encoder. But, even if you have a distaste 
> for lossy compression schemes, singling out mp3 doesn't really hold 
> water unless you explicitly make a distinction with respect to 
> bitrates. And there are plenty of use cases where exacting quality simply won't matter.
> That's not to say I don't prefer FLAC and avoid MP3 when I can, but 
> that's because I value having a pristine source that can be 
> manipulated as I choose without negative consequence.
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: Ted Kendall <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 01:41 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Mp3 is officially dead
>
> >
> > Except of course for the fact that it sounds horrible...
> >
> >
> > On 16/05/2017 18:19, Eli Bildirici wrote:
> > > Ha! As usual, follow the money. Fraunhofer's relevant patents on
> MPEG-1 Layer 3 audio are expiring - one of them already did back in 
> April and the last two are out by the end of the year. They're winding 
> it down now because soon enough a 'license' would be meaningless 
> anyway and they want to move legacy customers on to the new hotness 
> (preserving their revenue stream). That most news outlets, even 
> specialized ones, are dutifully parroting the company line about 
> 'obsolescence' is disheartening (even if the format has in fact been 
> eclipsed in terms of efficiency by AAC and Opus). Expiring software 
> patents = good news for everyone, and makes it more, not less, likely, 
> by the way, that commercial services that use MP3 downloads will stick to it.
> > >
> > >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > From: Rosie Rowe <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:26 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: [ARSCLIST] Mp3 is officially dead
> > >
> > >> FYI:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.sciencealert.com/the-mp3-is-officially-dead-
> after-its-creators-abandoned-it
> > >>
> > >> iPhone's fault.
> > >> Rosie Rowe
> > >> AV Specialist
> >
> >
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