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Thanks all,

I feel confident now that Xenomorphs should be established in LCSH and "Predator (Fictitious character : Dark Horse Comics)" should be revised to reflect the policies of H 1610.



in solidarity, 

Netanel Ganin
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Metadata Coordinator -- Hebrew Specialty
Brandeis University
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On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Kuperman, Aaron <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

A “species”, fictitious or not, is not capable of creating or contributing in an RDA sense.  Could for example, you ever want to have a 1xx or 7xx heading for “Humans”, or for that matter, for “Cats”; would by a human, or a cat, ever require a heading for their species. This suggest a heading for a fictitious species would, logically, go in LCSH.  There are headings for the Klingon language and literature, both in LCSH, and there are headings for other fictitious creatures (“Unicorns” and “Sasquatch”).  However I looked for some very common fictitious species (Klingons, Timelords and Vulcans, and couldn’t find them - though fiction usually doesn’t get subject headings so that may not be unexpected). While a resource (purportedly) created by a fictitious person might require an RDA heading in the NAF, it would seem that under basic cataloging principles an entire species should be in the subject authority file, regardless of what set of cataloging rules one is using.

 

Aaron Kuperman, LC Law Cataloging Section.

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From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]GOV] On Behalf Of Benjamin A Abrahamse
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:11 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] Fictitious species

 

Is there a use case for using the NAF? E.g., are there cases where these “aliens” have works attributed to them?

 

My feeling is that the case for establishing fictional entities in the NAF as opposed to LCSH is more pragmatic that theoretical. That is: pace LRM, we want to be able to provide access to works through the names of fictional entities who are associated with them, and it’s far more efficient to do that in the NAF than LCSH.

 

If “Aliens” (or xenomorphs, facehuggers, whatever they are called) only see subject use I should think LCSH would be the more appropriate place for them.

 

--Ben

 

From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]GOV] On Behalf Of Netanel Ganin
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:40 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [PCCLIST] Fictitious species

 

Dear PCC, 

 

Consider the Xenomorph.

 

In noting that the titular creature in the Alien franchise and attendant media properties wasn't represented in the NAF [nor LCSH, perhaps needing to be moved to the NAF], I found myself hesitating.

 

There is no singular Alien character which appears throughout Alien 1-4, Prometheus, Covenant, AvP 1-2, various comics and video games etc. -- It's a fictional species.

 

Is a fictional species considered a "group of fictitious characters" and therefore meant for inclusion in LCSH as per H 1610?

 

I note that there is an LCSH for their occasional sparring partner:

 

"Predator (Fictitious character : Dark Horse Comics)"

 

Which I also note is treated as though it refers to a singular individual [and thus is a candidate for being moved to the NAF] despite also being a species and has been applied to disparate works featuring different [and multiple] Predators. 

 

So my question is: do fictional species such as the Xenomorph and the Predator belong in the NAF or in LCSH? 

 

Thanks!


in solidarity, 

 

Netanel Ganin

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Metadata Coordinator -- Hebrew Specialty

Brandeis University

 

My pronouns are he/him/his