Hi Gary There is another option, that people buy the LP for it's NOT perfect sound. I love vinyl for what it is, and also for the non audio visual part of seeing the turntable turn. בברכה, שי דרורי. מומחה לשימור ודיגיטציה של אודיו וידאו ופילם 8-35ממ Cheers Shai Drori Expert digitization services for Audio Video Hi Res scanning for film 8mm-35mm Timeless Recordings Music Label www.audiovideofilm.com [log in to unmask] Tripadvisor level 5 contributor, level 10 restaurant expert On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 10:14 PM, Gary A. Galo <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I agree that good vinyl cut from a digital master can sound really great. > I still play some of those old Telarc LPs cut from the Soundstream digital > tapes, and they still sound pretty spectacular. But, those were made at a > time when there was no consumer digital format. The only way to offer their > digitally-mastered recordings to the consumer was on vinyl. If the goal is > to get as close as possible to the sound of the original master, then vinyl > cut from digital makes no sense anymore. If a vinyl record cut from a > digital master sounds better than an accurate digital file or high-res disc > made from that digital master, then the vinyl is probably hiding something > on the digital master that we don't like, or masking a problem in the > master with something euphonic. > > Gary > > ____________________________ > > Gary Galo > Audio Engineer Emeritus > The Crane School of Music > SUNY at Potsdam, NY 13676 > > "Great art presupposes the alert mind of the educated listener." > Arnold Schoenberg > > "A true artist doesn't want to be admired, he wants to be believed." > Igor Markevitch > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto: > [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Shai Drori > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 3:04 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Vinyl Sales DOWN - why? See interesting WSJ > article today > > If I may offer my $0.02 as a consumer this time. Some of the stuff on > vinyl is there for no reason as new pressing like Herb Alpert. Why spend > $30 on something you can find in the $1 bin? Other stuff is just too weird > for me to gamble $30 on. With the cost of pressing vinyl down to about $2 > for high volume, it seems like the record companies haven't learned their > lesson, and still try to milk a cow dry rather than look at what would > sustain the niche for many years. I buy a lot of vinyl in used stores, I > find lots of cool stuff I like at prices I am willing to spend. Not $30. As > for the master being analog or digital, I couldn't care less, and let's > face it, 99.9999% of the people that would listen to a good quality > pressing wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Vinyl is noisy enough, > and personally, I care about the pressing, not the origin of the master. > It's 2017, there is a lot of both treasures and garbage that originates as > analog and digital. A good cut from a digital source sound amazing on > vinyl, trust me, I got more than a few of those. > > בברכה, > שי דרורי. > מומחה לשימור ודיגיטציה של אודיו וידאו ופילם 8-35ממ Cheers Shai Drori > Expert digitization services for Audio Video Hi Res scanning for film > 8mm-35mm Timeless Recordings Music Label www.audiovideofilm.com > [log in to unmask] Tripadvisor level 5 contributor, level 10 restaurant > expert > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 9:44 PM, Eli Bildirici < 0000000fd3a0d01d-dmarc- > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > Yeah. There are still some ppl doing analogue mastering - Classic > > Records, Music Matters, Analogue Productions, Sterling (on behalf of > > others) but it's the exception rather than the rule. I think Music > > Matters may have stopped due to limited sales though (and they're one of > the 'good guys' > > here). > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > From: "Gary A. Galo" <[log in to unmask]> > > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 01:58 PM > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Vinyl Sales DOWN - why? See interesting WSJ > > article today > > > > > > > > The whole rationale for vinyl lovers is to be able to hear their > > favorite recordings from the analog tape era on records made with the > > best possible disc cutting and pressing. I don't know any vinyl lovers > > who want records cut from all-digital sources. For them, the whole > > point is all-analog. > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > ____________________________ > > > > > > Gary Galo > > > Audio Engineer Emeritus > > > The Crane School of Music > > > SUNY at Potsdam, NY 13676 > > > > > > "Great art presupposes the alert mind of the educated listener." > > > Arnold Schoenberg > > > > > > "A true artist doesn't want to be admired, he wants to be believed." > > > Igor Markevitch > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto: > > [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lou Judson > > > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 1:52 PM > > > To: [log in to unmask] > > > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Vinyl Sales DOWN - why? See interesting WSJ > > article today > > > > > > Thanks. That one says basically sales are slipping due to poor > > > sound, > > bad mastering, and not using the original analogue tapes. > > > > > > Most recordings these days never had an analog stage, but it would > > > still > > be possible to make a good-sounding Lp from a born-digital source. But > > most people have forgotten how, if they ever knew. > > > > > > It is all a bad business decision to do it the way they have done it... > > > > > > Yet hi res downloads are still growing! > > > > > > <L> > > > > > > Lou Judson > > > Intuitive Audio > > > 415-883-2689 > > > > > > On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:38 AM, David Crosthwait <[log in to unmask]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > A similar article is here: > > > > > > > > https://www.channelnews.com.au/vinyl-sales-slump-quality-blamed/ < > > https://www.channelnews.com.au/vinyl-sales-slump-quality-blamed/> > > > > > > > > > > > > David Crosthwait > > > > DC Video > > > > www.dcvideo.com > > > > > > > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:17 AM, Lou Judson <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Tell us a little about what the subscribers' article says... > > > > > >