I don’t know that the difference between “In this our world: poems” and “In this our world and other poems” means much in terms of authorial intent. Going through digitized versions, there were at least 3 different expansions of content and the manifestation titles are all minor variations. For example, the third expansion (1898) is entitled “In this our world: poems and sonnets” and has 149 poems.

 

Despite the differences in content, there does seem to be the idea of “sameness” where things with the tile “In this our world” contain a core of poems that are the same. In that light, I find the different expressions of the same work idea very attractive.

 

Jessica

 

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Walt Whitman's "Leaves of grass," which grew from 12 poems to over 400, is an even more dramatic example of how flexibly a work can be defined. Looking at a couple of the editions of this collection in HathiTrust, it seems clear that "In this our world" is a collection title, not the title of an individual poem. The puzzle becomes, does "In this our world" name a particular collection of poems, or does it name an expanding project on the part of Gilman like "Leaves of grass"? Note also that in OCLC, the only title for 1893 editions is "In this our world: poems" That being the case, we could argue that "In this our world and other poems" is actually a preferred title for a different work and not simply an expression of "In this our world," though it contains "In this our world."

 

Stephen

 

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Adam L. Schiff <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

or another alternative for different work access points would simply be:

 

240 10 Poems. $k Selections (1893)

 

240 10 Poems. Sk Selections (1895)

Adam Schiff

 


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I think you just have to make a judgment as to whether the content has changed significantly enough to have created a new work rather than a different expression.  I don't know of any guidance other than personal judgment.

 

If you decide the compilations are different works then you wouldn't use $f in front of the date:

240 10 Poems. $k Selections (In this our world and other poems : 1893)

 

240 10 Poems. Sk Selections (In this our world and other poems : 1895)

 

or

 

240 10 In this our world and other poems (1893)

 

240 10 In this our world and other poems (1895)

Adam Schiff

 


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Is your opinion based on the manifestation titles being the same? If they had different manifestation titles would you lean toward them being different aggregate works? I recently had a similar situation where the manifestation titles were the same but the content was completely different (completely different compilations of short stories by the same author).

 

Is there any guidance on when the content differs enough to become a new aggregate work?  

 

Jessica

 

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I would add $f 1893 to the first collection and $f 1895 to the second.  They seem like different expressions of the same compilation.  You would have a few options:

 

240 10 Poems. $k Selections (In this our world and other poems). $f 1893

 

240 10 Poems. Sk Selections (In this our world and other poems). $f 1895

 

or

 

240 10 In this our world and other poems. $f 1893

 

240 10 In this our world and other poems. $f 1895

 

Adam Schiff

University of Washington Libraries


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I have a collection of Charlotte Perkins Gilman’s poems, entitled “In this our world and other poems”. It was published in 1895.  However, it turns out that a compilation also entitled “In this our world and other poems” was published in 1893 but which contains over 50 fewer poems than the 1895 compilation. Although there is substantial overlap in the contents, to my mind 50 poems is a significant difference (the 1895 volume is 64 pages longer than the 1893 volume) and they are two different aggregate works. No editor is given for either volume and they are by the same publisher, which enhances the appearance of similarity.

 

I only have the 1895 volume, but even if I had the 1893 volume as well, I am not sure what is the best way to prevent confusion about the differences between the two volumes when I create a work record. There are 124 poems in the 1895 volume so I can’t make 500’s for all of them. Is there a note field I should be using (“Do not confuse with…”)?

 

This is the second time this has come up at my library this week, so if anyone has any advice, it would be much appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 



 

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