This begs the question whether conventional collective titles especially with "Selections" are actually the titles of RDA works or expressions at all. I'd argue that the alternative allowed for in RDA 6.2.2.10.3  to use such access points is a compromise with past AACR2 practice. Past practice was aimed at providing access points both collective and individual, not at providing access points specifically for works or expressions.

RDA 6.2.2.10 directs us to 6.2.2.4-6.2.2.7 for formulating the preferred title of a particular compilation found in manifestations or reference source--i.e., to start with the found title as the preferred title. That would be a simpler practice now than collectivizing our compilations and then re-particularizing them by adding more qualifiers--though I agree, that's what LC-PCC PSs currently instruct us to do.

The LC-PCC PS for 6.2.2.10.3 only instructs the adding of "Selections." I'd argue that the alternative properly stops there. If a particular work or expression title is desired, RDA has other provisions for determining that.

Stephen

On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 12:43 PM, McDonald, Stephen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Actually, slide 140 is for additions for AAPs for works.  The slides for AAPs for expressions with conventional collective titles starts on slide 163, and comes down to exactly the same as for additions to other expressions:  content type, date of expression, language of expression, or other characteristic (slide 166).  Examples can be seen on slides 167-169.

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Also take a look at the NACO training materials, Module 6, starting at about slide 140 https://www.loc.gov/catworkshop/courses/naco-RDA/index.html

It gives guidance on what you can use to make distinctive access points for CCTs with Selections.


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You do it the same way you distinguish every other expression.  In RDA, the same rule applies for distinguishing expressions, regardless of whether or not the work is a compilation or has a conventional collective title.  6.27.3 (Authorized Access Point Representing an Expression) says that the AAP for an expression is constructed by combining the AAP for the work plus one or more of the following elements:

Content type
Date of expression
Language of expression
Other distinguishing characteristic of expression

Other distinguishing characteristic of expression could be translator, editor, narrator, common designation in reference sources, publisher, or just about anything else.

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Hi

I understand that LC goes only to the Selections level without differentiating other editions. My question is what to use to do so and when and what will become the differentiating element.

Publishers sometimes does not include the compiler or editor of a selection of works for a creator. Thus, form what I've seen, the date of publication is been added in lieu of a name. I've seen also the publisher's name or the title from the 245 added to the 240.

An example
100 1  $a Creator, $e author.
240 10 $a Plays [or Poetry, etc.]. $k Selections
245 10 $a Title proper from the item....
264  1 $a place : $b publisher, $c date.

Now, what it is needed to make it different from other Selections?
My choices are, and I want to know which one is correct or appropriate.

240 10 $a Plays [or Poetry, etc.]. $k Selections (date from the 264) OR
240 10 $a Plays [or Poetry, etc.]. $k Selections $s (publisher in the authorized form) OR
240 10 $a Plays [or Poetry, etc.]. $k Selections $s (title from the 245)

The collective wisdom of this group will be really appreciated.

Ivan


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