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Hi Wayne,

Thanks so much for clarifying that confusing reference! This will
definitely help my work to map the BSR and BIBFRAME to LD4P's bibliotek-o
ontology. <https://bibliotek-o.org/>

Best,
Amber

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Wayne Schneider <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hi, Amber and Joseph.
>
> The document specifying the conversion for the 530-535 fields is actually
> ConvSpec-490,510,530-535-Links-R1p.xlsx
> <http://www.loc.gov/bibframe/mtbf/ConvSpec-490,510,530-535-Links-R1p.xlsx>
> -- I agree that the reference to "Other Linking Entries" in the document
> for the 5XX fields is a little confusing.
>
> A bug was actually just fixed in the LC BF conversion tool around these
> properties (https://github.com/lcnetdev/marc2bibframe2/issues/55). I'm
> not sure when this fix will make it into production. Here's a sample record
> with a 534 so you could see what the conversion looks like (with the bug in
> place, unfortunately): http://id.loc.gov/tools/bibframe/compare-lccn/full-
> rdf?find=2008623009
>
>    wayne
>
> --
> Wayne Schneiderwww.indexdata.com
>
>
> On 10/4/17 12:56 PM, Amber Billey wrote:
>
> Hi Joseph,
>
> bf:originalVersion and bf:originalVersionOf are subproperties of
> bf:derivativeOf and bf:hasDerivative without any defined domain or range;
> while bf:hasReproduction and bf:reproductionOf are subproperties of only
> bf:hasEquivalent with a domain and range of bf:Instance.
>
> bf:originalVersion and bf:originalVersionOf expresses the relationship
> between versions of Works (such as a book and it's movie remake); while
> bf:hasReproduction and bf:reproductionOf allows for the relationship
> between Instances (such as a photograph and the digitized copy of the
> photograph).
>
> I know it's not fun to look at, but the secrets to BF are hidden in it's RDF
> source code <http://id.loc.gov/ontologies/bibframe.rdf>:
>
> <owl:ObjectProperty rdf:about="http://id.loc.gov/ontologies/bibframe/
>> originalVersion">
>>         <skos:definition>Resource is the original version of which this
>> resource is a
>>             reproduction.</skos:definition>
>>         <rdfs:subPropertyOf rdf:resource="http://id.loc.
>> gov/ontologies/bibframe/derivativeOf"/>
>>         <rdfs:comment>Used with Work or Instance</rdfs:comment>
>>         <rdfs:label>Original version</rdfs:label>
>>         <rdfs:comment>Expected value Work or Instance</rdfs:comment>
>>         <owl:inverseOf rdf:resource="http://id.loc.
>> gov/ontologies/bibframe/originalVersionOf"/>
>>         <dcterms:modified>2016-04-21 (New)</dcterms:modified>
>>         <dcterms:modified>2016-04-29 (added inverse, updated
>> range)</dcterms:modified>
>>     </owl:ObjectProperty>
>>     <owl:ObjectProperty rdf:about="http://id.loc.gov/ontologies/bibframe/
>> originalVersionOf">
>>         <skos:definition>Original version of a resource.</skos:definition>
>>         <rdfs:subPropertyOf rdf:resource="http://id.loc.
>> gov/ontologies/bibframe/hasDerivative"/>
>>         <rdfs:comment>Used with Work or Instance</rdfs:comment>
>>         <rdfs:label>Original version of</rdfs:label>
>>         <rdfs:comment>Expected value Work or Instance</rdfs:comment>
>>         <owl:inverseOf rdf:resource="http://id.loc.
>> gov/ontologies/bibframe/originalVersion"/>
>>         <dcterms:modified>2016-04-21 (New)</dcterms:modified>
>>         <dcterms:modified>2016-04-29 (added inverse, updated
>> range)</dcterms:modified>
>>     </owl:ObjectProperty>
>>
>>     <owl:ObjectProperty rdf:about="http://id.loc.gov/ontologies/bibframe/
>> hasReproduction">
>>         <rdfs:domain rdf:resource="http://id.loc.gov/ontologies/bibframe/
>> Instance"/>
>>         <rdfs:range rdf:resource="http://id.loc.gov/ontologies/bibframe/
>> Instance"/>
>>         <skos:definition>Resource that reproduces another
>> Resource.</skos:definition>
>>         <rdfs:subPropertyOf rdf:resource="http://id.loc.
>> gov/ontologies/bibframe/hasEquivalent"/>
>>         <rdfs:label>Reproduced as</rdfs:label>
>>         <owl:inverseOf rdf:resource="http://id.loc.
>> gov/ontologies/bibframe/reproductionOf"/>
>>         <dcterms:modified>2016-04-21 (New)</dcterms:modified>
>>         <dcterms:modified>2016-04-29 (added inverse)</dcterms:modified>
>>     </owl:ObjectProperty>
>>     <owl:ObjectProperty rdf:about="http://id.loc.gov/ontologies/bibframe/
>> reproductionOf">
>>         <rdfs:domain rdf:resource="http://id.loc.gov/ontologies/bibframe/
>> Instance"/>
>>         <rdfs:range rdf:resource="http://id.loc.gov/ontologies/bibframe/
>> Instance"/>
>>         <skos:definition>Resource that is a reproduction of another
>> Resource.</skos:definition>
>>         <rdfs:subPropertyOf rdf:resource="http://id.loc.
>> gov/ontologies/bibframe/hasEquivalent"/>
>>         <rdfs:label>Reproduction of</rdfs:label>
>>         <owl:inverseOf rdf:resource="http://id.loc.
>> gov/ontologies/bibframe/hasReproduction"/>
>>         <dcterms:modified>2016-04-21 (New)</dcterms:modified>
>>         <dcterms:modified>2016-04-29 (added inverse)</dcterms:modified>
>>     </owl:ObjectProperty>
>
>
> Also whether we like it or not, BIBFRAME has to accommodate legacy MARC
> data, so it seems that the bf:originalVersion/bf:originalVersionOf and
> bf:hasReproduction/bf:reproductionOf will accommodate for MARC 534 and
> 533 data. However in the 5XX mapping tables
> <http://www.loc.gov/bibframe/mtbf/ConvSpec-5XX-R1p.xls> published by LC,
> 534 and 533 refer to the Linking Entries mapping tables
> <http://www.loc.gov/bibframe/mtbf/ConvSpec-760-788-Links-R0p.xlsx> and
> those properties are not listed there. So I'm curious how properties are
> actually being mapped ny LC. It would be useful to find an example and run
> it through the MARC to BF Comparison Tool
> <http://id.loc.gov/tools/bibframe/compare>. Still these properties set up
> a good foundation for recording relationships between version and
> reproductions outside of the MARC environment.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Best,
> Amber Billey
>
> PCC BIBFRAME Task Group Co-Chair
>
> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Joseph Kiegel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Please clarify the meaning and use of the originalVersion and
>> originalVersionOf properties.  The only hint in the definition is that the
>> relationship is one of “reproduction”.  However, the reproduction
>> relationship, which is one of equivalence not derivation, is already
>> covered by hasReproduction and reproductionOf.
>>
>>
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