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Hi Tim,

Now that I've got things set so 192 kHz audio is actually getting to my outboard DAC, I don’t think there's any loss of sound quality. If DTS is decoded properly by the player, all of the original data is restored without loss. What I question is calling these Pure Audio Blu-ray discs when they're not linear PCM. Again, I await an opinion from the Pure Audio folks. If they respond to my query, I'll post the response on the list. 

Best,
Gary



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From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Gillett
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 8:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Universal Mexico Decca Remasterings

Hi Gary,

I'm not sure which issues are most important  here.

Is it  false advertising, or the buyer being denied listening quality?

Regards
Tim

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From: "Gary A. Galo" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2017 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Universal Mexico Decca Remasterings


> The display on my Benchmark DAC3 HGC tells me the bit rate and sampling 
> rate.
>
> Gary
>
> ____________________________
>
> Gary Galo
> Audio Engineer Emeritus
> The Crane School of Music
> SUNY at Potsdam, NY 13676
>
> "Great art presupposes the alert mind of the educated listener."
> Arnold Schoenberg
>
> "A true artist doesn't want to be admired, he wants to be believed."
> Igor Markevitch
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Eli Bildirici
> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 7:01 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Universal Mexico Decca Remasterings
>
> Hmm. That sounds very strange. What exactly is telling you the bitrate and 
> samplerate of this content - the Oppos, your receiver, or something else?
> Could there be a weird firmware issue on the Oppos with these discs? Have 
> you tried other Pure Audio BDs on them to confirm?
> Could they have meant to make an additional release of this content at 
> 24/48 DTS-MA, and put the wrong 'pressing' in this package? Directly 
> advertising falsely in this manner is otherwise pretty egregious
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: "Gary A. Galo" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 06:04 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Universal Mexico Decca Remasterings
>
>>
>> Hi Corey,
>>
>> The problem is that it specifically says, on the covers, that they're 
>> Pure Audio Blu-ray at 24-bit/192 kHz. Here's the link to the series on 
>> the Almaraz web site (they're the Mexican dealer that ships to the US):
>>
>> https://www.almarazrecords.com/collections/theanaloggoldenage
>>
>> Scroll down to the 5th row to find the Blu-ray discs. Discs that follow 
>> the Pure Audio specifications must be PCM, so they will play on any 
>> Blu-ray player. Those discs may also contain Dolby or DTS programs, but 
>> the Pure Audio portion is high-res PCM. If there really isn't any 
>> high-res PCM program on these discs, then calling them Pure Audio 24/192 
>> is false advertising. If transfer, restoration and editing is done at 
>> 192/24, and the finished product is converted to DTS HD at 48 kHz, a 
>> manufacturer can't call it Pure Audio Blu-ray. More info on the Pure 
>> Audio format can be found here:
>>
>> http://www.pureaudio-bluray.com/
>>
>> None of the color buttons, which Pure Audio uses to change formats, 
>> function on these discs, and the Audio format button on my Oppo remote 
>> controls only brings up "1/1 DTS HD" on my TV screen. The "1/1" means 1 
>> of 1 - there are no other choices.
>>
>> I've emailed the Pure Audio folks about this to see what they have to 
>> say.
>>
>> Best,
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> ____________________________
>>
>> Gary Galo
>> Audio Engineer Emeritus
>> The Crane School of Music
>> SUNY at Potsdam, NY 13676
>>
>> "Great art presupposes the alert mind of the educated listener."
>> Arnold Schoenberg
>>
>> "A true artist doesn't want to be admired, he wants to be believed."
>> Igor Markevitch
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List 
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Corey Bailey
>> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 5:13 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Universal Mexico Decca Remasterings
>>
>> Hi Gary,
>>
>> I'm not surprised. 48K/24Bit is the film industry standard. As one who 
>> edited and mastered DVDs for a few of the major film studios, I can tell 
>> you that while the video was generally remastered to a Hi-Def format, the 
>> audio (at least, for the couple of hundred feature film titles and TV 
>> shows that I worked on) was re-purposed from Std. Def DVD files. I would 
>> expect that DVD-A is no different, weather it is mastered with DTS 
>> encoding or Dolby AC3.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Corey
>>
>> Corey Bailey Audio Engineering
>> www.baileyzone.net
>>
>> On 12/8/2017 11:22 AM, Gary A. Galo wrote:
>> > Does anyone know anything about the Decca Analog Golden Era recordings 
>> > that are being issued by Universal Mexico? I just got the four Blu-ray 
>> > discs of the Del Monaco operas. Despite the claim that these are 
>> > PureAudio Blu-ray discs at 192 kHz/24-bit, the only program I can find 
>> > on my Oppo UDP-205 or my wife's BDP-93 is DTS HD at 48 kHz/24-bit. Have 
>> > you heard anything about these? I'm wondering if I am the only one who 
>> > noticed. The reviewers in Fanfare all seem to have only the CD versions 
>> > of these remasterings, not the Blu-rays.
>> >
>> > It seems very strange that these are coming out of Mexico only. The 
>> > booklets say that the actual tape-to digital transfers were done at 
>> > Abbey Road Studios, which I also find strange. I thought all the Decca 
>> > tapes were in Hanover.
>> >
>> > Based on sampling these last night, I will say that even at 48 kHz, the 
>> > sound is superb - better than anything Decca has issued here of this 
>> > material. Strangely, I have found a lot of the Decca Originals 
>> > remasterings to be very bright on top, including the Karajan Otello and 
>> > the Solti Salome and Elektra. Regarding Salome and Elektra, the Blu-ray 
>> > editions are just as bright as the two previous CD releases.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > ____________________________
>> >
>> > Gary Galo
>> > Audio Engineer Emeritus
>> > The Crane School of Music
>> > SUNY at Potsdam, NY 13676
>> >
>> > "Great art presupposes the alert mind of the educated listener."
>> > Arnold Schoenberg
>> >
>> > "A true artist doesn't want to be admired, he wants to be believed."
>> > Igor Markevitch
>>
> 


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