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Sorry, I didn't mean to ruffle any feathers.  I do know that there are a
bunch of people on this list that have this volume, or their institution
has it.  I agree it should be made available again --  paging David
Seubert!  It was always an expensive book --  1166 +93 pages in the main
3-inch thick main volume alone.  Plus the supplement.  Dick sent me the
supplement, and I hunted around for the main volume until I got it for
about $90 on the web about 2 or 3 years ago.  It does happen.  Here's a
heads up --  Larry Kiner's autographed set of both volumes in on ebay
right now for $250, which is a bargain considering the supplement is at
least $100 now and used to be more than the main volume before a
reprint.  The original price was not much less 30 years ago, and ARSC
members got a discount postcard for it back then.

Mike Biel  [log in to unmask]  

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Questions about V Discs
From: "Gary A. Galo" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sat, December 02, 2017 10:49 am
To: [log in to unmask]

Ditto to Corey and Uncle Dave.

Happy Holidays,
Gary

____________________________

Gary Galo
Audio Engineer Emeritus
The Crane School of Music
SUNY at Potsdam, NY 13676

"Great art presupposes the alert mind of the educated listener."
Arnold Schoenberg

"A true artist doesn't want to be admired, he wants to be believed."
Igor Markevitch

-----Original Message-----
From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Lewis
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 7:58 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Questions about V Discs

On that the Sears V-Disc volumes are 30 year old Greenwood books that go
for hundreds of dollars on amazon when you can find them at all. The
information in them is of great interest and use to
scholars/discographers and access is needed now worse than ever. ARSC
supported Richard Sears'
research and I was wondering how much pull ARSC would have in making the
material available again on the web. Not everyone, even amongst us, have
these books or are within striking distance of a library where a set
would reside. And trying to obtain a set for one's own use really isn't
cost effective, even if you have the money to spend that way.

Just my thoughts,

Uncle Dave Lewis

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 11:25 PM, Corey Bailey <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Dr. Biel:
>
> Thank you for your informative response.
>
> However, most of us do not have "Richard Sears' V-Disc Discography." 
> So, perhaps you could check your guns at the door like the rest of us 
> usually do.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Corey
>
> Corey Bailey Audio Engineering
> www.baileyzone.net
>
>
> On 12/1/2017 6:08 PM, Michael Biel wrote:
>
>> It is a shame that none of you thought to look up the answers in 
>> Richard Sears' V-Disc Discography because none of the answers given 
>> so fare are correct. Yes Victor and Columbia pressed V-Discs but 
>> there were other plants as well. And most of the discs you think are vinylite, aren't.
>>
>> Most of the discs were pressed at RCA in Camden and all of them were 
>> collated and shipped from there. Columbia Bridgeport was another 
>> major plant as has been noted. The other plants used were World at 
>> 660 First Avenue near 38th Street; Clark Phonograph Company, 216 High 
>> Street, Newark, NJ; Scranton Record Company, Scranton Pa, Universal 
>> Sound Studios in Hollywood, and Allied Manufacturing Company.
>>
>> After the first few months, vinylite became a war rationed item 
>> because it was needed for wire insulation, so after experimentation a 
>> different but similar plastic was used called Formvar. A third 
>> plastic was also used called Alvar. I do not know how to tell these 
>> three apart, but after the war RCA used Formvar in the black plastic 
>> Not For Sale Disc Jockey discs. Their clear colored discs were 
>> vinyl, and apparently by the time the 45 was introduced they were 
>> using vinyl for their opaque black records as well. I would have to 
>> check about the Plum label kiddie 78s, but I do know the black label DJs were Formvar.
>>
>>
>> Mike Biel [log in to unmask]
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Questions about V Discs
>> From: Steven Smolian <[log in to unmask]>
>> Date: Fri, December 01, 2017 12:45 pm
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>
>> Some numbers turn up in Victor pressings, others in Columbia 
>> shellac-ish ones. I've not seen the same rfecord in both pressings.
>>
>> The series used for the Navy and the Marines all seem to be Victors.
>>
>> Steve Smolian
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List 
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dennis Rooney
>> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 12:20 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Questions about V Discs
>>
>> V-dics were handled as a Custom Division job; however, I never have 
>> come across any documentation or reference to production of laminated 
>> V-discs in the Columbia files. Very interesting, David.
>>
>> DDR
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Gary A. Galo <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, David. I did not know this. All of the V-Discs I've seen and
>>> own are vinylite.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> ____________________________
>>>
>>> Gary Galo
>>> Audio Engineer Emeritus
>>> The Crane School of Music
>>> SUNY at Potsdam, NY 13676
>>>
>>> "Great art presupposes the alert mind of the educated listener."
>>> Arnold Schoenberg
>>>
>>> "A true artist doesn't want to be admired, he wants to be believed."
>>> Igor Markevitch
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:
>>> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Diehl
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 2:08 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Questions about V Discs
>>>
>>> Columbia also manufactured some V-Discs. They're easy to 
>>> spot-they're laminated shellac pressings.
>>> -David Diehl
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Gary A. Galo <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: ARSCLIST <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Wed, Nov 29, 2017 12:55 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Questions about V Discs
>>>
>>> Hi Ben,
>>>
>>> I just consulted with Seth Winner on this. He says the records were 
>>> pressed by Victor, and by the looks of the matrix numbers I would 
>>> agree. He and I both find that the bass turnover is usually 500 Hz, 
>>> with -10 or -12 dB at 10 kHz. Seth says that some of the ones where 
>>> they crammed 6 or more minutes on one side may require a bass 
>>> turnover of 800 Hz. Bear in mind that ALL V-Discs are dubs and, as 
>>> such, are mostly mediocre in sound quality. They may require some 
>>> additional EQ in addition to the basic turnover and roll-off.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> ____________________________
>>>
>>> Gary Galo
>>> Audio Engineer Emeritus
>>> The Crane School of Music
>>> SUNY at Potsdam, NY 13676
>>>
>>> "Great art presupposes the alert mind of the educated listener."
>>> Arnold Schoenberg
>>>
>>> "A true artist doesn't want to be admired, he wants to be believed."
>>> Igor Markevitch
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:
>>> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of 6295LARGE .
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 9:35 AM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: [ARSCLIST] Questions about V Discs
>>>
>>> Hello everybody.
>>>
>>>
>>> Can anyone answer these questions?
>>>
>>> 1. Where were the V discs pressed?
>>>
>>> 2. Which equalization was used?
>>>
>>>
>>> We have a few V discs and I want to dub them correctly equalized.
>>>
>>> 24 bits 96 kHz.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Ben Roth
>>>
>>> P.S. PLEASE send the answers to [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>>
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