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I just cannot tell how much I feel we need BCP47 and RFC 5646 in a globalized world. This is a manuscript partly written in Italian in Hebrew script: http://www.kb.dk/manus/judsam/2009/sep/dsh/object36944/en/ These are not odd curiosities, they are real. Furthermore RFC5646 is THE Internet industry standard. Cheers, Sigge ________________________________________ Fra: Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum [[log in to unmask]] på vegne af Heuvelmann, Reinhold [[log in to unmask]] Sendt: 18. december 2017 11:30 Til: [log in to unmask] Emne: Re: [BIBFRAME] CC:AAM Statement in Support of the Internationalization of BIBFRAME Dear Andrew, dear Robert, dear all, I see. Thank you for clarifying. Maybe BCP47 https://tools.ietf.org/html/bcp47 deserves a better title, instead of “Tags for Identifying Languages” the script level covered there might have been reflected. I always think of language and script as two different levels, none of which is prior to the other, and they can be combined in very creative ways. Best wishes Reinhold Von: Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Im Auftrag von Andrew Cunningham Gesendet: Montag, 18. Dezember 2017 01:02 An: [log in to unmask] Betreff: Re: [BIBFRAME] CC:AAM Statement in Support of the Internationalization of BIBFRAME Reinhard, BCP47 includes the use of script subtags as required. Some language subtags will have supress script fields and should not have a script subtag. Many languages need a script tag to distinguish between orthographies. Some languages do not. It is covered by BCP47. Andrew On Saturday, 16 December 2017, Heuvelmann, Reinhold <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Dear Robert, in addition to the previous contributions, I would like to see ISO 15924 “Codes for the representation of names of scripts” mentioned in the statement. This standard provides a way to designate the information in which script a specific piece of data is encoded, using a coded value. See the lists at http://www.unicode.org/iso15924/ The MARC equivalents here are field 880 http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd880.html and subfield $6 “Linkage”, http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ecbdcntf.html , where only a limited set of script codes is allowed, at least up to now. Best wishes Reinhold -- Reinhold Heuvelmann German National Library Information Infrastructure Office for Data Formats Adickesallee 1<https://maps.google.com/?q=Adickesallee+1%0D+60322+Frankfurt+am+Main%0D+Germany&entry=gmail&source=g> 60322 Frankfurt am Main<https://maps.google.com/?q=Adickesallee+1%0D+60322+Frankfurt+am+Main%0D+Germany&entry=gmail&source=g> Germany<https://maps.google.com/?q=Adickesallee+1%0D+60322+Frankfurt+am+Main%0D+Germany&entry=gmail&source=g> Telephone: +49 69 1525-1709 mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> http://www.dnb.de<http://www.d-nb.de/> *** Reading. Listening. Understanding. German National Library *** Von: Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] Im Auftrag von Robert J. Rendall Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Dezember 2017 16:14 An: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Betreff: Re: [BIBFRAME] CC:AAM Statement in Support of the Internationalization of BIBFRAME And many thanks for the thoughtful feedback received on this list! I'll take it back to the Committee for further discussion. Robert On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Robert J. Rendall <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Colleagues - The ALA/ALCTS Committee on Cataloging: Asian and African Materials (CC:AAM) has voted to approve a Statement in Support of the Internationalization of BIBFRAME, containing recommendations on character encoding, the representation of original script and romanization, normalization, and language tags: http://connect.ala.org/node/271553 Robert Rendall Chair, CC:AAM 2017-2018 http://www.ala.org/alcts/mgrps/camms/cmtes/ats-ccscataa Robert Rendall Principal Serials Cataloger Original and Special Materials Cataloging, Columbia University Libraries 102 Butler Library, 535 West 114th Street, New York, NY 10027<https://maps.google.com/?q=535+West+114th+Street,+New+York,+NY+10027&entry=gmail&source=g> tel.: 212 851 2449<tel:(212)%20851-2449> fax: 212 854 5167<tel:(212)%20854-5167> -- Andrew Cunningham [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>