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I think that's correct. PCC only requires that the bib heading be
established, not that the authority show relationships with 5XX fields, and
not that a work heading be established to authorize an expression heading.

Stephen

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Jessica Janecki <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Thank you for confirming my hopes that a simple string was allowable in
> lieu of a complicated nested string. However, I assume I am free to create
> an authority record with:
>
> 100 1 $a Gregorovius, Ferdinand, $d 1821-1891. $t Lucrezia Borgia. $l
> English $s (Goldscheider)
>
> And a 670 explaining the situation rather than going down the rabbit hole
> of creating 4 other authority records. AFAIK there is no requirement to
> create the work record in addition to creating the expression record.
>
>
>
> Jessica
>
>
>
> *From:* Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]
> GOV] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Hearn
> *Sent:* Monday, December 11, 2017 3:37 PM
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: [PCCLIST] translation of a particular expression
>
>
>
> The relationships could be represented this way in authorities:
>
>
>
> 100 1 $a Gregorovius, Ferdinand, $d 1821-1891. $t Lucrezia Borgia. $l
> English $s (Goldscheider)
>
> 500 1 $i Revision of (expression): $a Gregorovius, Ferdinand, $d
> 1821-1891. $t Lucrezia Borgia. $l English $s (Garner) $w r
>
> 500 1 $i Translation of: $a Gregorovius, Ferdinand, $d 1821-1891. $t
> Lucrezia Borgia. $l German $s (Third edition) $w r
>
>
>
> 100 1 $a Gregorovius, Ferdinand, $d 1821-1891. $t Lucrezia Borgia. $l
> English $s (Garner)
>
> 500 1 $i Translation of: $a Gregorovius, Ferdinand, $d 1821-1891. $t
> Lucrezia Borgia. $l German $s (Third edition) $w r
>
>
>
> 100 1 $a Gregorovius, Ferdinand, $d 1821-1891. $t Lucrezia Borgia. $l
> German $s (Third edition)
>
> 500 1 $i Revision of (expression): $a Gregorovius, Ferdinand, $d
> 1821-1891. $t Lucrezia Borgia. $l German $w r
>
>
>
> 100 1 $a Gregorovius, Ferdinand, $d 1821-1891. $t Lucrezia Borgia. $l
> German  [the first expression in the original German, for which LC/PCC does
> not have a consensus practice]
>
>
>
> 100 1 $a Gregorovius, Ferdinand, $d 1821-1891. $t Lucrezia Borgia  [the
> work]
>
>
>
> The relationship that RDA expects to be represented hierarchically in the
> AAP string is the relationship between the work and an expression. There is
> no relationship designator for the relationship between a work and an
> expression (note that "Translation of" does not specify (expression)
> because it can only be used to relate one expression to another).
> Relationships between expressions can be represented as 5XX relationships
> as shown above in probably too much detail--and preferably not by longer
> and longer AAPs, e.g.
>
>
>
> 100 1 $a Gregorovius, Ferdinand, $d 1821-1891. $t Lucrezia Borgia. $l
> German $s (Third edition) $l English $s (Garner) $s (Goldscheider)
>
>
>
> So, I'd say "Gregorovius, Ferdinand, $d 1821-1891. $t Lucrezia Borgia. $l
> English $s (Goldscheider)" would indeed be sufficient; but doing the
> authority work for that heading on a PCC bib record could be fairly
> involved.
>
>
>
> Stephen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Jessica Janecki <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> I am cataloging an edition of Lucrezia Borgia: a chapter from the morals
> of the Italian renaissance. The preface clearly states: "The present text
> is based on the third original edition, the last supervised by the author.
> The English translation by John Leslie Garner...has been revised". It seems
> that the revision was done by the editor, Ludwig Goldscheider.
>
>
>
>
>
> Would the following hypothetical AAP be sufficient?:
>
> Lucrezia Borgia. $l English. $s (Goldscheider)
>
>
>
> Or do I need to somehow indicate that this is a revision of a translation
> of a particular expression?
>
>
>
> Jessica
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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