How about “was?”
Pete Wilson
Vanderbilt University
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Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] Chief executives
“Chief executive of” was an unfortunate replacement in the 2016 update for an earlier relationship designator “Incumbent”, which was used in this sort of situation
and actually made a sort of sense (as “incumbent of”). As has been pointed out, the current RD doesn’t work; but there isn’t any longer an appropriate RD for an AAP such as “United States. President (2009-2017 : Obama)”.
Robert L. Maxwell
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I agree with John Hostage's point that "510 1 $i Chief executive of: $a United States. $b President (2009-2017 : Obama)" is poorly constructed--the relationship should be with "United States." But where and how would that best be coded?
551 $i Chief executive of: $a United States $w r
This coding would treat the standalone US name as geographic, as usual; but DCM Z1 for 551 says not to use subfield $i in 551 until relationship designators for places are developed for RDA.
510 1 $i Chief executive of: $a United States $w r
This coding would emphasize the corporateness of the US in this case, and use of the subfield $i is valid per DCM Z1 for 510. It's also arguably redundant with "510 1 $a United States. $b President (2009-2017 : Obama)", which should also
be on the record.
370 $i Chief executive of: $f United States $s 2009 $t 2017 $2 naf
This coding might also be considered, enabling us to take advantage of subfields $s and $t to add the dates; but one could argue again that 370 should be for relationships to geographic places, not corporate entities.
Field 373 for a relationship to a corporate entity might also be considered, but subfield $i is not currently approved for use there in MARC Authorities.
Is there a preferred practice?
Stephen
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Hostage, John <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Looking at the record brings up another unrelated point that has been bothering me: the President is chief executive of the United States.
To use a less controversial example, Barack Obama was chief executive of the United States, not as his NAR states, chief executive of “United States. President (2009-2017 : Obama).” That is the AAP for an office he held and functions as kind of an alternative identity. The concept is kind of anomalous in the RDA scheme of things.
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Subject: [PCCLIST] n 85387872 (Pres. T.)
Dear colleagues:
While I have no respect whatsoever for the person currently holding the office, is such non-objective information what we really want in our authority records?:
010 n 85387872
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670 Newsweek.com, 16 November 2017 ǂb (When has Trump been accused of rape or attempted rape? Allegations include a child, his wife and a business associate) ǂu http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-rape-sexual-assault-minor-wife-business-victims-roy-moore-713531
670 Root.com, 6 December 2017 ǂb (President Pussy Grabber damn near stumps for accused Sex Offender Roy Moore, because of course he would) ǂu https://www.theroot.com/president-pussy-grabber-damn-near-stumps-for-accused-se-1820657867
678 Donald Trump (born 1946) is a U.S. real estate developer, billionaire, television personality, political candidate, and author. Trump has been accused of sexual assault and sexual harassment, including non-consensual kissing or groping, by at least fifteen women since the 1980s.
Following that perverse logic, I would expect such additions as: 372 Sexual harassment of women $2 lcsh
Seriously, I try to exclude all judgmental characterizations—positive or negative—from my authority work, and I believe others should do so as well. IMO, whoever added the data in bold-face ought to remove it. It just adds fuel to an already out-of-control conflagration.
Thanks,
Chuck Herrold
Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh
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