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I am hesitant to weigh in on this, but feel compelled to given the direction of some commentary.  The NACO instructions seem to be clear that some of these contributions may be inappropriate, and I do not dispute that.  However, I am concerned with the discussion of sexual offences as a “partisan” issue.  Sexual harassment/abuse/etc. is not a political but rather a socio-cultural issue, and including reporting of this information should not be considered “partisan”, as it is not limited to one political persuasion or another.  Conflating these areas risks trivializing the very real issues at hand.  This is a larger trend that I am concerned with, of course, and I do not think ill will is intended by any.  I only urge that we continue to strive for sensitivity on this difficult topic.

With all best wishes,

Anne



From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Heiman, Larry
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Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] n 85387872 (Pres. T.)

Not that I think members of Congress have added themselves or their staff to the PCC List, but can you imagine the uproar this practice could create if it came to their attention. LC would be branded a partisan institution, further justifying cuts to its budget.

Larry Heiman
Catalog Librarian & NACO Coordinator
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Yale University Library
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From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lavey, Patrick
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Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] n 85387872 (Pres. T.)

Agreed.  I hope they have been removed.  These allegations have been widely covered and don’t belong in the record.  This is the journalist or biographer’s job, not ours.

By the way, I am not a fan of the current resident at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, D.C. either.

Patrick Lavey
Senior Cataloging Librarian
Hugh and Hazel Darling Law Library
UCLA School of Law
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From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Allison Rich
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 5:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] n 85387872 (Pres. T.)

I have to weigh in on this, as well.

It adds to nothing and I also think it ought to be removed.

Allison
The last three 670s contain no information justifying data in the NAR, nor any name variants, nor any information needed to identify the person. I agree they are inappropriate; they are also unnecessary, and in my opinion ought to be removed.


Regards
Richard

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From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Herrold, Charles
Sent: 10 January 2018 13:26
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Subject: [PCCLIST] n 85387872 (Pres. T.)

Dear colleagues:
     While I have no respect whatsoever for the person currently holding the office, is such non-objective information what we really want in our authority records?:

010    n  85387872
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670  Newsweek.com, 16 November 2017 ǂb (When has Trump been accused of rape or attempted rape? Allegations include a child, his wife and a business associate) ǂu http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-rape-sexual-assault-minor-wife-business-victims-roy-moore-713531<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.newsweek.com_donald-2Dtrump-2Drape-2Dsexual-2Dassault-2Dminor-2Dwife-2Dbusiness-2Dvictims-2Droy-2Dmoore-2D713531&d=DwMGaQ&c=cjytLXgP8ixuoHflwc-poQ&r=GKW8Kn21Td9z-ZclvcpAqV7hl82uvaT7p9TBJkj3EQ8&m=d730Sx5hCjJWhKFI5SKZCL3NxqfvrB00pPy2vquKIso&s=VEXpXAfaKQxahl4OMNWG1DSWitMhRKFl5UH6dpztiCs&e=>
670  Root.com, 6 December 2017 ǂb (President Pussy Grabber damn near stumps for accused Sex Offender Roy Moore, because of course he would) ǂu https://www.theroot.com/president-pussy-grabber-damn-near-stumps-for-accused-se-1820657867<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.theroot.com_president-2Dpussy-2Dgrabber-2Ddamn-2Dnear-2Dstumps-2Dfor-2Daccused-2Dse-2D1820657867&d=DwMGaQ&c=cjytLXgP8ixuoHflwc-poQ&r=GKW8Kn21Td9z-ZclvcpAqV7hl82uvaT7p9TBJkj3EQ8&m=d730Sx5hCjJWhKFI5SKZCL3NxqfvrB00pPy2vquKIso&s=HGlcMRkHnWFfsxm_hxKY66yeWXo2uUwxj60zynj-LGE&e=>
678  Donald Trump (born 1946) is a U.S. real estate developer, billionaire, television personality, political candidate, and author. Trump has been accused of sexual assault and sexual harassment, including non-consensual kissing or groping, by at least fifteen women since the 1980s.

    Following that perverse logic, I would expect such additions as: 372  Sexual harassment of women  $2 lcsh

    Seriously, I try to exclude all judgmental characterizations—positive or negative—from my authority work, and I believe others should do so as well.  IMO, whoever added the data in bold-face ought to remove it. It just adds fuel to an already out-of-control conflagration.

Thanks,
Chuck Herrold
Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh



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