I agree with John Hostage's point that "510 1 $i Chief executive of: $a United States. $b President (2009-2017 : Obama)" is poorly constructed--the relationship should be with "United States." But where and how would that best be coded?

551 $i Chief executive of: $a United States $w r

This coding would treat the standalone US name as geographic, as usual; but DCM Z1 for 551 says not to use subfield $i in 551 until relationship designators for places are developed for RDA.

510 1 $i Chief executive of: $a United States $w r

This coding would emphasize the corporateness of the US in this case, and use of the subfield $i is valid per DCM Z1 for 510. It's also arguably redundant with "510 1 $a United States. $b President (2009-2017 : Obama)", which should also be on the record.

370 $i Chief executive of: $f United States $s 2009 $t 2017 $2 naf

This coding might also be considered, enabling us to take advantage of subfields $s and $t to add the dates; but one could argue again that 370 should be for relationships to geographic places, not corporate entities.

Field 373 for a relationship to a corporate entity might also be considered, but subfield $i is not currently approved for use there in MARC Authorities.

Is there a preferred practice?

Stephen

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Hostage, John <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Looking at the record brings up another unrelated point that has been bothering me: the President is chief executive of the United States.

To use a less controversial example, Barack Obama was chief executive of the United States, not as his NAR states, chief executive of “United States. President (2009-2017 : Obama).” That is the AAP for an office he held and functions as kind of an alternative identity. The concept is kind of anomalous in the RDA scheme of things.

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Dear colleagues:

     While I have no respect whatsoever for the person currently holding the office, is such non-objective information what we really want in our authority records?:

010    n 85387872

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670 Newsweek.com, 16 November 2017 ǂb (When has Trump been accused of rape or attempted rape? Allegations include a child, his wife and a business associate) ǂu http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-rape-sexual-assault-minor-wife-business-victims-roy-moore-713531

670 Root.com, 6 December 2017 ǂb (President Pussy Grabber damn near stumps for accused Sex Offender Roy Moore, because of course he would) ǂu https://www.theroot.com/president-pussy-grabber-damn-near-stumps-for-accused-se-1820657867

678 Donald Trump (born 1946) is a U.S. real estate developer, billionaire, television personality, political candidate, and author. Trump has been accused of sexual assault and sexual harassment, including non-consensual kissing or groping, by at least fifteen women since the 1980s.

    Following that perverse logic, I would expect such additions as: 372 Sexual harassment of women $2 lcsh

    Seriously, I try to exclude all judgmental characterizations—positive or negative—from my authority work, and I believe others should do so as well. IMO, whoever added the data in bold-face ought to remove it. It just adds fuel to an already out-of-control conflagration.

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Chuck Herrold

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