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Adam, Thank you for the embarrassment of riches--i.e., all those Olympic Games in the 373! So - let me make sure I have this right: - All meetings, events, races, world's fairs, etc. are 111s - All 111s are corporate bodies - All corporate bodies are groups - All groups are eligible for inclusion in the 373 One final quick question: Vatican II is an Associated Group for my nun. The Associated Place is Vatican City, which is surrounded by Italy, just as Lesotho is surrounded by South Africa. Am I right in believing that: A person associated with the 373 Vatican II would have Vatican City as an Associated Place (370 $f), but not necessarily Italy? Just as a person with an Associated Place of Lesotho would not also have an Associated Place of South Africa? Ann On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 4:30 PM, Adam L. Schiff <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Here’s a few other examples of this kind of association: > > > > 100 1 Bolt, Usain, ǂd 1986- > > 370 Sherwood Content (Jamaica) > > 370 ǂc Jamaica ǂ2 naf > > 370 ǂe Kingston (Jamaica) ǂ2 naf > > 372 Running races ǂ2 lcsh > > 373 Olympic Games (28th : 2004 : Athens, Greece) ǂa Olympic Games (29th > : 2008 : Beijing, China) ǂa Olympic Games (30th : 2012 : London, England) > ǂa Olympic Games (31st : 2016 : Rio de Janeiro, Brazil) ǂ2 naf > > 374 Runners (Sports) ǂa Athletes ǂa Olympic athletes ǂ2 lcsh > > > > 100 1 Blair, Bonnie, ǂd 1964- > > 370 Cornwall on Hudson (N.Y.) ǂc United States ǂe Champaign (Ill.) ǂ2 > naf > > 372 Speed skating ǂ2 lcsh > > 373 Olympic Winter Games (14th : 1984 : Sarajevo, Bosnia and > Hercegovina) ǂa Olympic Winter Games (15th : 1988 : Calgary, Alta.) ǂa > Olympic Winter Games (16th : 1992 : Albertville, France) ǂa Olympic Winter > Games (17th : 1994 : Lillehammer, Norway) ǂ2 naf > > 374 Speed skaters ǂa Olympic athletes ǂ2 lcsh > > > > They each participated in four Olympics. Olympic games are events, > coded 111 just as conferences/meetings are. > > > > Adam Schiff > > University of Washington Libraries > > > > *From:* Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask] > GOV] *On Behalf Of *Robert Maxwell > *Sent:* Monday, January 29, 2018 1:54 PM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: Can a conference be a group? > > > > Ann, > > > > Since a conference is a corporate body and a corporate body is by > definition a group of persons, I don’t see any reason why you shouldn’t > record one as an associated group. > > > > Bob > > > > Robert L. Maxwell > Ancient Languages and Special Collections Librarian > 6728 Harold B. Lee Library > Brigham Young University > Provo, UT 84602 > (801)422-5568 <(801)%20422-5568> > > > > *From:* Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask] > gov <[log in to unmask]>] *On Behalf Of *Ann Heinrichs > *Sent:* Monday, January 29, 2018 1:57 PM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Can a conference be a group? > > > > Hello, Colleagues - > > > > (Apologies to my funnel for duplicating this question.) > > > > I'm making a NAR for a nun who was president of the International Union of > Religious Superiors and, as such, got to be an auditor at Vatican II. > > I would like to make Vatican II an associated group (373 $a), but the only > thing is, Vatican II is a conference. Can I nevertheless put Vatican II > into the 373 field? > > Thanks! > > -- > > Ann Heinrichs > > Metadata/Cataloging Librarian > > The Paul Bechtold Library > > Catholic Theological Union > > 5401 S. Cornell Ave. > <https://maps.google.com/?q=5401+S.+Cornell+Ave.%0D+%0D+Chicago,+IL+60615&entry=gmail&source=g> > > Chicago, IL 60615 > <https://maps.google.com/?q=5401+S.+Cornell+Ave.%0D+%0D+Chicago,+IL+60615&entry=gmail&source=g> > http://www.ctu.edu/library > > [log in to unmask] > -- Ann Heinrichs Metadata/Cataloging Librarian The Paul Bechtold Library Catholic Theological Union 5401 S. Cornell Ave. Chicago, IL 60615 http://www.ctu.edu/library [log in to unmask]