I have also been using a VPI 16.5 for years, mostly on 78s, with Nitty-Gritty Pure 1 fluid. The VPI does a good job, has held up well, and is way less expensive than the Monks. Sometimes you have to scrub the grooves with the brush rather than just allow the record to rotate underneath it, but this is easy to do.
In a message dated 4/23/2018 5:17:06 PM Central Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:

 Ed Komara and I have been using a VPI HW 16.5 at Crane for years.

It's a great cleaner for vinyl discs up to 12 inches. For LPs, I think it works just as well as the Monks machine, and for thousands less. I've never tried it with 78s, but VPI notes that you should use a different vacuum pickup for shellac records than the one you use for vinyl, to avoid contaminating LPs with the grit inherent in shellac discs. I do find that it takes more than the two revolutions they suggest to vacuum all of the fluid off the record. Audio Advisor is an authorized dealer:

We also like the Groovy cleaning fluids from Bags Unlimited:

They also make a non-alcohol formula for lacquer and shellac discs:

Their record sleeves are excellent. I've been using these on my LPs for years:

Another fine dealer with excellent record sleeves is Sleeve City. I especially like their heavy weight paper sleeves for 78s:

That's my 2 cents. 



Gary Galo
Audio Engineer Emeritus
The Crane School of Music
SUNY at Potsdam, NY 13676

"Great art presupposes the alert mind of the educated listener."
Arnold Schoenberg

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Igor Markevitch

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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Record washing machines

I'd throw in a mention for the Nitty-Gritty line . If you only have a 
couple hundred disks, and you feel it's not worth the money going to one 
of the units mentioned below, the Nitty Gritty models do a very decent 
job and have very strong vacuum suction. I prefer manual models for the 
Nitty Gritty line.

Kind Regards,

John Schroth


On 4/23/2018 2:31 PM, Aaron Coe wrote:
> Hi Joel,
> IMO the best record cleaning machines are those that utilize a thread-type vacuum design. Unfortunately they aren’t cheap:
> Keith Monks = $ 4,950.00
> Pristine Vinyl = $ 2,500.00
> Loricraft = $ 1,825.00
> I have used a Loricraft for almost a decade without little to no complaint. Here’s a video of me cleaning a 16” lacquer on my Loricraft:
> There are some excellent reviews of all of these units on YouTube that I invite you to check out.
> -Aaron
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>> On Apr 22, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Joel Bresler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Apologies for cross-posting.
>> I would be very interested in any opinions on and reviews of the better record washing devices on the market, such as the Monks and VPI units. Personal experience and online links both very welcome. I need to clean and digitize a few hundred 78s so a machine that is at least semi-automated would be great.
>> Thanks in advance for your insights and help,
>> Joel
>> Joel Bresler, Publisher
>> 250 E. Emerson Road
>> Lexington, MA 02420
>> United States
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