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Not specifically, but there was no evasive words used.  

Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Eli Bildirici
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 6:43 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] CD-R life

Hahaha, I don't doubt. Do you remember what they said?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Steven Smolian <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 06:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] CD-R life

>Back in the day when I was on the AES committee creating the standards for testing CDs,  I saw an outrageous claim by TY in a print ad.  I contacted them and was told that they arrived at their figures by tweaking the testing parameters to give their product the best results.   Exactly why we need standards.
>
>Steve Smolian
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Eli Bildirici
>Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 4:29 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] CD-R life
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>(IOW, in my initial post here, which I am now realizing you weren't responding to, I should have specified that TY's dye composition/mfr process lives on, somehow, under CMC. I realize now that the way I phrased it in my reply to you sounded ambiguous. Carry on)
>
>-------- Original Message --------
>From: Lou Judson <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 04:12 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] CD-R life
>
>>
>> Eli, are you saying geniune Japanese TY CDRs are still available? If so, where, or is it secret?
>> 
>> <L>
>> Lou Judson
>> Intuitive Audio
>> 415-883-2689
>> 
>> On May 14, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Eli Bildirici <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>> > I am aware, but iirc error tests with e.g. CD-DVD Speed show the CMC Mag disks are less robust than the Japanese manufactured ones, though the formula is the same. This may have affected long-term longevity somewhat too but it's only been a couple of years, so it's hard to know for sure. In any case the theme in this thread seems to be 'dye matters, and proper storage matters quite a lot as well'.
>> > I should have mentioned that they are still available though and are still probably your best bet.
>> > 
>> > -------- Original Message --------
>> > From: Lou Judson <[log in to unmask]>
>> > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 03:33 PM
>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] CD-R life
>> > 
>> >> 
>> >> TY formula still available:
>> >> <https://www.amazon.com/CMC-Pro-Powered-Technology-Watershield/dp/B000LUC8WW>
>> >> <http://www.microboards.com/blank-media/cmc-pro-media/cmc-pro-cd-r-media>
>> >> search for TY CDrs for more info.
>> >> I won’t use anything else, until forced to.
>> >> <L>
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